# Good guild —\> less points, gold per PVP match

**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/good-guild-less-points-gold-per-pvp-match/35193
**Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)
**Created:** [January 22, 2018, 8:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/good-guild-less-points-gold-per-pvp-match/35193 "2018-01-22T08:00:20Z")
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### Author: ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)
#### Post date: [January 22, 2018, 6:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/good-guild-less-points-gold-per-pvp-match/35193/20 "2018-01-22T18:19:40Z")

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> [@Slypenslyde](#):
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> It’d be nice to get a dev to weigh in

> [@This is why people are worried about GW. Can anyone explain?](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/this-is-why-people-are-worried-about-gw-can-anyone-explain/21747/42):
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> After Guild Wars is out, we’ll be reviewing some of the weirdness in PvP points & PvP Gold rewards I REALLY wanted to get to it earlier, but GW has taken up all our time. The PvP Points calculation is kind of complex, and it takes a lot into account to STOP various forms of exploitation, but it was unavoidable that after being out in the wild for so long, with in excess of 50,000,000 PvP matches played so far, that some folks have been min-maxing the experience in sneaky, but not necessarily …

Here’s the last word from a dev, as far as I’m aware, on this question. There were a few good discussions about similar matters about 10 months ago. At the time, I did some experiments to see how high I could keep my average PVP points per battle after moving to a casual guild. I wasn’t tracking gold at the time, but the difference in leaderboard points was pretty stark.

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