# Good defense team **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\ **Created:** [July 5, 2016, 1:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/good-defense-team/9184 "2016-07-05T13:33:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ebreg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/96bed5/32.png) [@Ebreg](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ebreg)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 1:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/good-defense-team/9184/1 "2016-07-05T13:33:35Z")
Hi all. I have good PvP attacking team 99% winning rate except stupid Mab teams. But in defense it looses because AI plays it badly. Any good AI not dependant team ? Could You shrae some ideas ? BTW : if You want to try sth different I am using Treant \*\*\* Jarl Firemantle\*\*\* Jarl Firemantle\*\*\* Infernal King \*\*\* Very strong and fun to play. ---
**Author:** ![Mahamoti](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mahamoti/32/19354_2.png) [@Mahamoti](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mahamoti)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 2:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/good-defense-team/9184/2 "2016-07-05T14:11:13Z")
Looping teams aren’t good on defense, because the AI plays them poorly. Gorgotha, while a really strong front tank, isn’t really good on defense either, as the AI will just spam his ability instead of using the rest of the team. The most brutal defense I’ve run into lately has been Maw/Famine/Famine/Mercy. Other good defenses would be anything that makes good use of Empowered troops… I’ve seen 3xScale Guard or 3xSiren besides the obvious Mercy. ---
**Author:** ![stabito](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@stabito](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/stabito)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 3:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/good-defense-team/9184/3 "2016-07-05T15:11:00Z")
last i checked my defense wins doubled my losses and i use Famine Famine Acolyte Famine got all 3 traits on famine and the first trait on acolyte ---
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 4:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/good-defense-team/9184/4 "2016-07-05T16:33:33Z")
> [@Ebreg](#): > > Any good AI not dependant team ? “goblins”, rockworm with full traits and the earth tank. ---
**Author:** ![therealwetwilly](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/therealwetwilly/32/4178_2.png) [@therealwetwilly](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/therealwetwilly)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 5:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/good-defense-team/9184/5 "2016-07-05T17:33:45Z")
So your wins doubled or your losses? ---
**Author:** ![stabito](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@stabito](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/stabito)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 7:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/good-defense-team/9184/6 "2016-07-05T19:58:50Z")
well it was yesterday but i just checked and its no longer the case but im still going positive at 36 wins 24 losses ---
**Author:** ![Robert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/robert/32/12802_2.png) [@Robert](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Robert)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 9:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/good-defense-team/9184/7 "2016-07-05T21:41:14Z")
Who would you recommend as the 4th troop alongside scale garden or siren? ---
**Author:** ![Mahamoti](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mahamoti/32/19354_2.png) [@Mahamoti](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mahamoti)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2016, 10:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/good-defense-team/9184/8 "2016-07-05T22:13:15Z")
Naga Queen or Serpent with Scale Guard. Siren you can use to fill Maw. ---
**Author:** ![therealwetwilly](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/therealwetwilly/32/4178_2.png) [@therealwetwilly](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/therealwetwilly)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 4:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/good-defense-team/9184/9 "2016-07-08T16:18:00Z")
Think i passed you, and passed up on you. 3 famines at level 159 was it? must feel nice 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![stabito](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@stabito](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/stabito)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 6:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/good-defense-team/9184/10 "2016-07-08T18:21:00Z")
yep that sounds about right but while the 3 famines is nice i still cant seem to find a war no matter how many keys i spend ---
**Author:** ![Dorgath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dfb087/32.png) [@Dorgath](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Dorgath)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 7:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/good-defense-team/9184/11 "2016-07-08T19:03:48Z")
Right now, for 7 days, only Famine is in the chests. ---
**Author:** ![Shiratori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Shiratori](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shiratori)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 7:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/good-defense-team/9184/12 "2016-07-08T19:06:10Z")
You mean Plague. ---
**Author:** ![Rasper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/rasper/32/2363_2.png) [@Rasper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rasper)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 7:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/good-defense-team/9184/13 "2016-07-08T19:06:14Z")
> [@Dorgath](#): > > Right now, for 7 days, only Famine is in the chests. Plague not Famine, wrong horsey ---
**Author:** ![Dorgath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dfb087/32.png) [@Dorgath](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Dorgath)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 12:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/good-defense-team/9184/14 "2016-07-11T12:55:30Z")
Indeed, my bad. Too many horsemen now 😳 😊