# Gold drop in PVP is less since 2.2 patch **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (General)\ **Created:** [December 15, 2016, 6:48pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gold-drop-in-pvp-is-less-since-2-2-patch/16667 "2016-12-15T18:48:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Spherix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/spherix/32/2388_2.png) [@Spherix](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Spherix)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 12:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gold-drop-in-pvp-is-less-since-2-2-patch/16667/21 "2016-12-16T12:24:11Z")
> [@kynetarse](#): > > there are times where my 1-trophy option will be higher power than the previous 3-trophy option that I just fought. It only has a limited pool of players to pull from. It only picks opponents who are “active”, and prefers players who haven’t been attacked recently. We don’t know the exact numbers, and they could have tweaked them at any time, but players are only considered active if they’ve invaded someone in the past couple hours. It probably just picks three people at random, and just orders them by team power, rather than actually looking for a “low” “medium” and “high” option separately. ---
**Author:** ![Kharybdys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kharybdys/32/2023_2.png) [@Kharybdys](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kharybdys)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 12:29pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gold-drop-in-pvp-is-less-since-2-2-patch/16667/22 "2016-12-16T12:29:48Z")
Actually there was a post by Sirrian sometime back that they do have three different ways of looking for an opponent. But that indeed doesn’t necessarily match low/medium/high always. Let me try to find that post. Edit: Sofar I can’t find it and I was back to the end of October already. As it’s worktime I do have to work too so perhaps I can find the link later today/tonight. ---
**Author:** ![Annaerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/annaerith/32/13840_2.png) [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 12:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gold-drop-in-pvp-is-less-since-2-2-patch/16667/23 "2016-12-16T12:36:06Z")
i dont know where that post is but the 3 teams matchmaking was: - your acc level + your pvp tier - your acc level + your pvp ranking - your average attack team score over time in an unknown order ---
**Author:** ![DonBoba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/donboba/32/25457_2.png) [@DonBoba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DonBoba)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 12:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gold-drop-in-pvp-is-less-since-2-2-patch/16667/24 "2016-12-16T12:38:15Z")
I’ve noticed increase in PvP gold, simply because defending team score are higher then what I’m facing. Wider gap in team score provides for bigger payout. ---
**Author:** ![KAYA43V3R](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kaya43v3r/32/312_2.png) [@KAYA43V3R](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/KAYA43V3R)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 12:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gold-drop-in-pvp-is-less-since-2-2-patch/16667/25 "2016-12-16T12:38:59Z")
I need an explanation if you know. Here I play a team to farmer gold, with 2 troops having the merchant trait. But I am surprised the total of this team: 9605 points. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/8/89da209e38d168d3e6da209121c5a3ccefc88131.PNG) There is however a rare troop and an ultra-rare … why is the score so high …? ---
**Author:** ![Annaerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/annaerith/32/13840_2.png) [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 12:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gold-drop-in-pvp-is-less-since-2-2-patch/16667/26 "2016-12-16T12:41:20Z")
all team scores were adjusted in 2.2 update to include guild statues bonuses ---
**Author:** ![Ozball](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ozball/32/36110_2.png) [@Ozball](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ozball)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 12:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gold-drop-in-pvp-is-less-since-2-2-patch/16667/27 "2016-12-16T12:41:57Z")
It’s based on the current rarity of your troop, and the amount of traits you have (and the troops levels) so if they’re all Mythic with 3/3 traits, then you’ll have a higher score. ---
**Author:** ![Ozball](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ozball/32/36110_2.png) [@Ozball](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ozball)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 12:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gold-drop-in-pvp-is-less-since-2-2-patch/16667/28 "2016-12-16T12:42:54Z")
Nuts… I’ve been meaning to look into that. I guess I’ll have to dig out the Team Power formula we worked out back when it was introduced and update it. Thanks for reminding me. EDIT: Oops, double post. Sorry! \>\< ---
**Author:** ![KAYA43V3R](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kaya43v3r/32/312_2.png) [@KAYA43V3R](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/KAYA43V3R)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 12:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gold-drop-in-pvp-is-less-since-2-2-patch/16667/29 "2016-12-16T12:47:57Z")
> [@Ozball](#): > > It’s based on the current rarity of your troop, and the amount of traits you have (and the troops levels) so if they’re all Mythic with 3/3 traits, then you’ll have a higher score. Thanks, I understand better. What is a bit frustrating is that the more we advance in upgrading our troops, the less we will earn gold. ---
**Author:** ![Annaerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/annaerith/32/13840_2.png) [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 12:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gold-drop-in-pvp-is-less-since-2-2-patch/16667/30 "2016-12-16T12:53:16Z")
it was in another topic but i believe YOUR account level was somehow added in the gold gained equation or at least the acc level brackets (the furthest roll at lv500) is where ppl report gold reward dropping so its even more sad as you just keep playign the reward will drop… 😢 ---
**Author:** ![Spherix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/spherix/32/2388_2.png) [@Spherix](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Spherix)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 1:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gold-drop-in-pvp-is-less-since-2-2-patch/16667/31 "2016-12-16T13:14:48Z")
Eh, [this](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-new-defend-meta/15349/106) is probably what you’re thinking of. And considering that I remember it, I should have looked at it again before I posted. I blame exhaustion. I’ll transcribe the contents of the image for the benefit of easier searching in the future: > One of your opponents will be chosen based on your average ATTACK team rating over time. Defend team rating does not factor into the matchmaking. > The other 2 opponents are chosen based on: > a) A combination of your PvP Ranking & Level > b) A combination of your PvP Tier & Level (I _think_… not 100% certain on that one, so I’d need to check) Again, though, those probably aren’t individually linked to the 1, 2, and 3 trophy options. It probably picks 3 opponents, one for each method, and sorts them by team power. I wonder if there’s something broken in the function that returns your average attack team rating, and that it’s factoring in defend team rating as well – or only defend team rating. It wouldn’t be the first time they got attack and defend teams mixed up. I remember defense teams getting reset to either Team #1, or the last attack team used, or something like that. I wonder if the slot people have their defense teams in is a contributing factor. Might explain why some people say changing their defense team affects their invade options, and others say it makes no difference. ---
**Author:** ![Kharybdys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kharybdys/32/2023_2.png) [@Kharybdys](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kharybdys)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 1:20pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gold-drop-in-pvp-is-less-since-2-2-patch/16667/32 "2016-12-16T13:20:27Z")
Yeah that was the one. And you are right I think, it definitely will select three opponents based on these three rules then order them by team score so there’s no guarantee option A is always the easy option (as an example). ---
**Author:** ![silimike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e99b99/32.png) [@silimike](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/silimike)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 2:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gold-drop-in-pvp-is-less-since-2-2-patch/16667/33 "2016-12-16T14:11:31Z")
What it comes down to, regardless of what the formula is, is higher level players who are in top guilds are getting considerably less gold post patch. My guild requires at minimum 500k per week, and it’s now harder for me to make that due to a change in a formula. @Sirrian Please adjust the gold payout so it’s roughly the same as it was pre-patch. ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 2:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gold-drop-in-pvp-is-less-since-2-2-patch/16667/34 "2016-12-16T14:26:11Z")
> [@silimike](#): > > higher level players who are in top guilds are getting considerably less gold post patch I’ve noticed no change in my gold intake… ---
**Author:** ![DonBoba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/donboba/32/25457_2.png) [@DonBoba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DonBoba)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 2:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gold-drop-in-pvp-is-less-since-2-2-patch/16667/35 "2016-12-16T14:32:56Z")
> [@silimike](#): > > higher level players who are in top guilds are getting considerably less gold post patch. And I noticed an increase. ---
**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 2:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gold-drop-in-pvp-is-less-since-2-2-patch/16667/36 "2016-12-16T14:40:12Z")
> [@silimike](#): > > What it comes down to, regardless of what the formula is, is higher level players who are in top guilds are getting considerably less gold post patch. I’m actually getting more gold, the hardest fight option is usually valued up to 50% higher than before. I’ve switched my defense team to all Undead, to help out a bit with fragging the hag. This caused my defense power rating to increase quite a bit, which may be the reason for tougher invasion opponents. Hard to tell though, there might be some other patch related formula changes at work too. ---
**Author:** ![Mithran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mithran/32/18064_2.png) [@Mithran](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mithran)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 2:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gold-drop-in-pvp-is-less-since-2-2-patch/16667/37 "2016-12-16T14:52:31Z")
I’ve noticed an increase in the minimum payout, an increase in the maximum payout, and an overall _decrease_ in the amount a _specific score team_ will pay out, however, a team of say, 7500-8500 points is actually much more likely to be significantly weaker than me now in terms of skill points, where prepatch they could either be significantly weaker or nearly on-par. That is, in fact, the _only_ instance where you should see a per-battle gold drop, a high end player with guild bonuses fighting another high end player _without_ any guild bonuses, where prepatch they were considered “on par” with your skill bonus level and are now (correctly) considered below. Average gold payout over time has not been significantly changed with regard to matchmaking, and in fact, having 25-50% stat boost troops randomly in the mix (where the extra boost does not have any affect on the team score at all and therefore you get the same rewards for beating a team with mega-boosted troops) is much more likely to lower your over-time gains if it becomes widespread in usage, as it can make games take longer. ---
**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2016, 5:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gold-drop-in-pvp-is-less-since-2-2-patch/16667/38 "2016-12-16T17:32:10Z")
Me either. Level 1100 in the #34 guild. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gold-drop-in-pvp-is-less-since-2-2-patch/16667.md?page=1)