# Goblageddon (quite scary) **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (General)\ **Created:** [December 19, 2015, 2:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/goblageddon-quite-scary/2129 "2015-12-19T02:24:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2015, 2:30pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/goblageddon-quite-scary/2129/21 "2015-12-19T14:30:49Z")
they added traits to the challenges so you can experience them when you are over level 50 ---
**Author:** ![Pasa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19adc/32.png) [@Pasa](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Pasa)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2015, 3:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/goblageddon-quite-scary/2129/22 "2015-12-19T15:14:53Z")
> [@Jainus](#): > > Same old same old put downs instead of thinking… I have no trouble beating them, I am just tired of seeing them in more than half my matches… and by any measures they are stronger than most supposedly equivalent troops… > > If you have anything meaningful to add to the debate please generate a meme image for that instead… We’re fighting one’s DEFEINSIVE team. So if certain team on defense becomes a menace it could be cured by some negative effects that hoses defense position instead of general nerf that nukes the player’s investment and mood. Like easiest fix to webspinned, orb and other problems would have been a simple list of ‘banned for defense’ stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Pasa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19adc/32.png) [@Pasa](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Pasa)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2015, 3:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/goblageddon-quite-scary/2129/23 "2015-12-19T15:41:33Z")
> [@killerman3333](#): > > why is no one using a fully traited out frenzy/regen team on defense? It gets stronger the more it gets hurt and it heals the damage you do to it Who said that? I fought at least one. ---
**Author:** ![Mitheithel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mitheithel/32/2352_2.png) [@Mitheithel](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mitheithel)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2015, 3:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/goblageddon-quite-scary/2129/24 "2015-12-19T15:42:30Z")
Easy fix, maybe, but banning a troop for use even in only part of the game seems counter to the whole idea. Here’s this great troop, only you’re not allowed to use it… I would much rather see a work in progress type so.ution than a quick ban hammer solution, cause that is a very slippery slope. ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2015, 3:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/goblageddon-quite-scary/2129/25 "2015-12-19T15:45:33Z")
Agree, sorry @Pasa but I never want to see any troop etc banned in any part of the game - get it right, ideally globally and by introducing enough other cool stuff… banning things is like saying both ‘yeah we f%\*ed it up’ and ‘we can’t think how to fix it’… okay so it’s iterative, but it’s cool that it evolves and steadily improves… even if it sometimes doesn’t feel that way… ---
**Author:** ![Pasa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19adc/32.png) [@Pasa](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Pasa)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2015, 4:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/goblageddon-quite-scary/2129/26 "2015-12-19T16:02:23Z")
> [@Jainus](#): > > Agree, sorry @Pasa but I never want to see any troop etc banned in any part of the game - get it right, ideally globally and by introducing enough other cool stuff… banning things is like saying both ‘yeah we f%\*ed it up’ and ‘we can’t think how to fix it’… okay so it’s iterative, but it’s cool that it evolves and steadily improves… even if it sometimes doesn’t feel that way… Bad way of thinking to just discard options – you supposed to evaluate alternatives against each other. Banning is bad, yeah, but not necessarily the worst option. Also it need not be permanent, may go for just a week or 2 until a better thing gets designed and tested out. The recent orbkilling is a good example, it could have been banned from defense just until the 1.08 ships. Instead now it will stay crippled forever. Guess what annoys players more? Or what annoys more people? Esp. when having a strong defense team is not top priority, many options exist for player to compensate. The game is not symmetric until real PvP is introduced, I see no reason then to pretend it is. ---
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2015, 4:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/goblageddon-quite-scary/2129/27 "2015-12-19T16:10:29Z")
i assumed it was not being used by no one mentioning it and no one i fought using it or defense or in revenge other than myself running a team centered around those traits. ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2015, 4:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/goblageddon-quite-scary/2129/28 "2015-12-19T16:22:56Z")
We will agree to disagree on this… don’t see anything ever needing to be banned, when a thought-through fix should do the job… ---
**Author:** ![Machiknight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/machiknight/32/6108_2.png) [@Machiknight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Machiknight)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2015, 5:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/goblageddon-quite-scary/2129/29 "2015-12-19T17:03:00Z")
You guys…seriously…You want to think outside the box do you just put yourself In another box. Banning is an option, not a very good one, but still an option. It does however go in the right direction. “Marauder team bonus” + whatever when used to invade. It even fits thematically. Plenty of bonuses like thus could be interesting. Templar - + whatever when defending ---
**Author:** ![Mitheithel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mitheithel/32/2352_2.png) [@Mitheithel](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mitheithel)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2015, 5:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/goblageddon-quite-scary/2129/30 "2015-12-19T17:42:05Z")
Ah, this I like much better. This is quite opposite of a ban - it rewards you for using a troop in a particular way rather than banning it from use at all. I would be behind this all the way. Good thinking. It can be easy to stay in a narrow track of thought, you’re right. ---
**Author:** ![Emos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/emos/32/5163_2.png) [@Emos](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Emos)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2015, 5:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/goblageddon-quite-scary/2129/31 "2015-12-19T17:56:06Z")
That’s a real neat way to think about it! I love the idea of Marauder bonus only triggering when invading. ---
**Author:** ![Machiknight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/machiknight/32/6108_2.png) [@Machiknight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Machiknight)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2015, 5:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/goblageddon-quite-scary/2129/32 "2015-12-19T17:57:17Z")
I like to design card games as a hobby, one of the things you run into a lot in game design is having to take something that might work really well for what you want to do, remove it from the equation, and think about something different to try. ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 6:17pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/goblageddon-quite-scary/2129/33 "2015-12-20T18:17:13Z")
Just ran into this (even more scary) bunch - alarming in particular that this could be obtained so easily and so soon after the patch, when no one will be getting many traits onto the decent epic or legendary troops… I spotted also they ran the green+2 banner. With the first goblin’s third trait (Nature Link) active - it charges in ONE green 3 match. Then deals 10 damage AND gets an extra turn, for only the six mana. That’s getting nuts. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/6/6be858b5cf5a31ef64f0b1974fb07ecf36c122ca.png) Still tracking about 40%-50% of my battles hit goblin defence teams. Suffice to say, I beat the greenskin sods - even though a lucky skull match meant that first goblin one-shotted my Anointed One early doors (23 Attack and double attack damage to humans from its trait meant it killed my 45HP first guy in one attack). Here’s a screenshot just before the skull match that gave me the win: ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/2/2e59b844993df359e468ceea29a7c399a24b7371.png) That was a long battle and rather tough - which is fine, and was kinda fun - but it’s arduous when half my matches are that hard, and I suggest many players in the mid-range would struggle, and again it’s getting boring and annoying… Refer my above post for some ideas on improving the meta, including re-costing any spells with an extra turn, minor nerfs to gobbos, and sorting out the blanket stat gains from ascending, and above all getting more varied troops to make more viable teams of other types… ---
**Author:** ![melkathi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/melkathi/32/131_2.png) [@melkathi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/melkathi)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 6:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/goblageddon-quite-scary/2129/34 "2015-12-20T18:58:13Z")
I just played against that person. Alt+F4ed out. Maybe I should start scouting. But meh. easier to just play a different game entirely. ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 7:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/goblageddon-quite-scary/2129/35 "2015-12-20T19:13:34Z")
I’ve vsed that guy a few times since the patch. He keeps invading me back… ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 7:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/goblageddon-quite-scary/2129/36 "2015-12-20T19:25:30Z")
I know the name - think it’s an old guildmate of mine from Tigerclaw…[quote=“melkathi, post:34, topic:2129”] easier to just play a different game entirely [/quote] That’s exactly what we don’t want to be hearing… if Imp/Gem-obsessed @melkathi can alt out and stop playing, what will less dedicated players do… ---
**Author:** ![Malkav](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/malkav/32/3562_2.png) [@Malkav](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Malkav)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 8:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/goblageddon-quite-scary/2129/37 "2015-12-20T20:13:27Z")
Not quite understanding concerns about goblins, specifically. I have hit some fully-traited teams with interesting combinations that crushed my invasion–not a goblin in sight. I realize that I have fewer traits and will need to up my crafting to start handing them their backsides. Interesting that some of the teams were using common and previously useless cards to great effect. This is just my two cents. Certainly your experience may vary. ---
**Author:** ![LadySapphira](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ladysapphira/32/1296_2.png) [@LadySapphira](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/LadySapphira)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 8:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/goblageddon-quite-scary/2129/38 "2015-12-20T20:38:32Z")
> [@Jainus](#): > > If you have anything meaningful to add to the debate please generate a meme image for that instead… ^^ made my day 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Pasa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19adc/32.png) [@Pasa](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Pasa)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 11:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/goblageddon-quite-scary/2129/39 "2015-12-20T23:18:33Z")
Last 2 battles against evolved gob teams they sent me packing. Must say I had really bad luck with board while AI had a head start. (one of them was a lvl 1000 player. And shaman’s curse trait was really hurting ;). I won 2 other such battles earlier, then I had a better start. All the other teams I met wire either less evolved or non-gob. ---
**Author:** ![Zelfore](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zelfore/32/22295_2.png) [@Zelfore](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zelfore)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2015, 6:17am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/goblageddon-quite-scary/2129/40 "2015-12-21T06:17:56Z")
> [@Pasa](#): > > (one of them was a lvl 1000 player. And shaman’s curse trait was really hurting). Let me guess, that Charl guy right? They’ve come in busting down my kingdoms doors a good 6-7 times these past few days. You can tell they’ve been playing a lot as of late. If it didn’t cost a measly 50 gold for a 50/50 chance or so of winning over 2k gold I would’ve skipped those revenges. Lucky for them they’re worth so darn much. 💰😋💰 [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/goblageddon-quite-scary/2129.md?page=1) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/goblageddon-quite-scary/2129.md?page=3)