# Global chat and you
**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/global-chat-and-you/46788
**Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)
**Created:** [October 3, 2018, 6:57am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/global-chat-and-you/46788 "2018-10-03T06:57:49Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2018, 5:48pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/global-chat-and-you/46788/21 "2018-10-03T17:48:32Z")
> [@Bloctrap](#):
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> Exactly my point mate. I give my opinion and you attack. I have never interacted with the community before today and you can call me malicious all you like but that doesn’t change the fact that it is ironic that one of the biggest bullies gets caught and banned and now makes a thread meant to improve global experience. Your ban is a big step toward improving global and should be the first step, not the last.
How did you find out about this thread since you weren’t on the forums? Your actions can easily be described as malicious. Still citing my one time wrong doesn’t excuse your wrong today. Nor does it justify it in anyway.
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### Author:  [@UKresistance](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/UKresistance)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2018, 5:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/global-chat-and-you/46788/22 "2018-10-03T17:55:05Z")
I like to tease and taunt some guilds during guild wars because it’s called guild wars.
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### Author:  [@vanyel](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/vanyel)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2018, 5:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/global-chat-and-you/46788/23 "2018-10-03T17:59:44Z")
> [@awryan](#):
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> Though I’m no saint. I explicitly asked that my incident not be discussed here. If you can’t respect such a simple request here. I have to wonder how much respect you give towards the community outside of here.
> [@awryan](#):
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> So I want to hear the communities thoughts. Not about me or the incident this week cause that will just get this thread locked.
> But instead… Your honest thoughts about global chat.
> [@Bloctrap](#):
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> I’m sure that you will have some colourful remarks to me in response to this but do yourself a favour and keep them to yourself since I won’t be around to read them
You ask for honest opinions about global so he gives his. But because his opinion is that he’s seen you in a negative light on global & here on the forums you go on the offense, calling him a coward, claiming his opinion isn’t valid. You asked for opinions & when they hurt you lash out. It’s something you do continually.
Seems pretty clear he explicitly requested you not bother responding in a hostile way yet you explicitly ignored his simple request to berate him for not heading yours. Seriously? 🤔
I too don’t bother with global most of the time unless its for recruiting for similar reasons that everyone else has already stated. Of note during times when I would be there, there are typically non-stop sexual innuendos firing back & forth and often enough you’re right in the thick of it seeing how far you can push the limits of what you can get away with saying. I’m no prude & I appreciate some baudiness and sly references along with an (un)healthy dose of sarcasm, so if the conversations are enough to make me not care to hang in global longer than necessary there’s something wrong.
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### Author:  [@Bloctrap](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Bloctrap)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2018, 6:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/global-chat-and-you/46788/24 "2018-10-03T18:03:02Z")
> [@awryan](#):
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> How did you find out about this thread since you weren’t on the forums?
> [@Bloctrap](#):
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> I go to global sometimes to read but I never post. I also come here to read but have never even made an account until today
🤦♂️
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### Author:  [@Ashasekayi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashasekayi)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2018, 6:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/global-chat-and-you/46788/25 "2018-10-03T18:05:07Z")
> [@awryan](#):
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> Instead, they choose to just ban folks when abusive language is used in an argument?
That makes perfect sense to me. They have been pretty clear that people should keep their discourse civil.
**Scenario A:**
Player A: “That show was so $@#&ing good!”
**Scenario B:**
Player B: “I bet you look like a $@#&ing pig!”
It’s pretty obvious that Player B is using abusive language because he is attacking someone with his language. Player A is just using a swear word as an adjective. It’s Player B’s behavior that causes a toxic and uninviting atmosphere. He could have said “I bet you look like an ugly pig!”, and the statement would have been just as abusive.
It’s obvious they let people like Player A slide on the forum and global, I personally don’t have a problem with that. However, I don’t think they should let Player B slide at all. Abusive language isn’t the least bit ok. It isn’t necessary to make a point.
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### Author:  [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2018, 6:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/global-chat-and-you/46788/26 "2018-10-03T18:11:08Z")
> [@vanyel](#):
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> You ask for honest opinions about global so he gives his.
It’s unfortunate that when I asked it be made about global chat. You, and others, still feel it’s there right to share judgement on me. I can’t discuss a topic on the forums. Because it quickly becomes about me instead of the topic. Then people accuse me of thinking everything is about me. 🤷
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### Author:  [@MatrimCauthon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MatrimCauthon)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2018, 6:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/global-chat-and-you/46788/27 "2018-10-03T18:14:37Z")
- Do you use global chat?
All the time, chat chat chat, la la la laa!a!aaa!
- Do you feel like global chat is a safe place to ask questions or share thoughts?
Usually. But the few times I’ve had people trolling me, it’s easy to get an Intrim or two to come share that space with me. I’ve also told people to chill when needed because stupid people are stupid.
- Would you like there to be more oversight of global by the devs?
…“oversight” is up to interpretation. I think some devs take pg-13 to mean kindergarten appropriate, which I highly disagree with. But I do like devs showing up and sharing the day with us.
- Should bans for offenses be on a case by case punishment scale?
To this, I mostly agree. I got banned because some douche after me kept being pornstache creepy, so although my part in it was pg, I was banned with the whole group. We pushed the limit and found the boundary. Fair enough :downsmybeeronthewayout:
“Or treated by the same standards written out in the community Guidelines. Judged solely on prior behavior.”
Solely on prior behavior? Like, they have to know every player, their guilds, prior incidences, alleged or accurate, joking, tone, sarcasm all through the _oh so reliable_ means of text-speak in a large group setting. Yeah, that’s just not fair to any person, dev or not.
Personally, I will keep using chat, helping people, recruiting, telling lame jokes, and keeping a comraderie among the guilds. And when I’m in a more … humorous… mood, I will either ninja around the devs or take it to guild chat (s).
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### Author:  [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2018, 6:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/global-chat-and-you/46788/28 "2018-10-03T18:14:40Z")
Lol… My apologies I missed the part where you admitted to only lurking until you saw this post by me. I should clearly put the same amount of focus and attention to your words. As you do with mine.
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### Author:  [@Razzagor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razzagor)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2018, 6:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/global-chat-and-you/46788/29 "2018-10-03T18:16:26Z")
- Do you use global chat?
`Not often.`
- And if you don’t. Why not?
`It's not something i need in the game and sometimes it's really distracting.`
- Do you feel like global chat is a safe place to ask questions or share thoughts?
`No. Since it's a place where every player can say whatever they want there is little or none restraint on what kind of conversations people conduct there. It's important to note that a chat is just a tool, and it can be used for the wrong purpposes by people.`
- Would you like there to be more oversight of global by the devs?
`Ideally moderation is required and should be enforced. People can't be trusted with too much freedom.`
- Should bans for offenses be on a case by case punishment scale? Or treated by the same standards written out in the community Guidelines? Judged solely on prior behavior.
`Yes for both. But there is little clarity on the rules or expected conduct for such feature, generally speaking our community have fewer rotten eggs than other game's communitties, but the lack of proper moderation still is worrisome for the future.`
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### Author:  [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2018, 6:20pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/global-chat-and-you/46788/30 "2018-10-03T18:20:42Z")
> [@vanyel](#):
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> But because his opinion is that he’s seen you in a negative light on global & here on the forums you go on the offense, calling him a coward, claiming his opinion isn’t valid. You asked for opinions & when they hurt you lash out. It’s something you do continually.
I wouldn’t say hurt. If you allow me to honestly explain my actions. I’ll do so though knowing that it won’t change your mind at all.
If I feel disrespected. Then I see no reason not to counter that disrespect. With disrespect of my own towards them. Whether that’s wrong or right. I’m not here to be judged. And still don’t understand why you think its your right to judge me.
Alas, I did not call this brand new forums user a coward. I said if he has another forums account, and created this forums account today for the sole purpose of trolling… Then it’s a cowardly act. Don’t know how that can’t be an accurate description if that in fact happened.
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### Author:  [@vanyel](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/vanyel)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2018, 6:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/global-chat-and-you/46788/31 "2018-10-03T18:22:01Z")
> [@awryan](#):
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> It’s unfortunate that when I asked it be made about global chat. You, and others, still feel it’s there right to share judgement on me.
He did give his opinion on global in general and so did I - just as you requested. We also cited examples of how people like you are part of the problem (can always count on you to not disappoint!)
This thread has become about you because you made it about you by continually needing to get the last zing in on everyone. You don’t want to hear the answer don’t ask the question.
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### Author:  [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2018, 6:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/global-chat-and-you/46788/32 "2018-10-03T18:22:54Z")
By the way. That is all I’ll say to you @vanyel about me as a topic. I won’t partake in this thread being derailed into another…“let’s talk about how much I hate Ryan fest”. Please be respectful of my OP moving forward.
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### Author:  [@GrumpySmurf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/GrumpySmurf)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2018, 6:29pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/global-chat-and-you/46788/33 "2018-10-03T18:29:56Z")
When the major bug hit that took out the global chat I stopped using it. Haven’t been back since. Don’t use the clan chat either, discord is easier to manage.
I will say GoW’s in game chat is better than most I’ve used. Accessibility from every screen incl. gameplay is a nice feature, but it’s too unreliable to worry about.
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### Author:  [@Razzagor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razzagor)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2018, 6:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/global-chat-and-you/46788/34 "2018-10-03T18:50:29Z")
This is not the first time, nor will be the last, that Global Chat is being discussed. I can’t believe the devs can have it monitored as much as the servers can, and therefore we can only expect reactive responses instead of preventive ones.
It’s a tricky situation to solve, but i think it would be interesting to have an automated response code giving “time-outs” for people using strong language/swearing.
If possible the censorship would be lifted for the person using the F-word, for example, he would see it but the other users wouldn’t (they would still see it censored on their chat), then the system would automatically give him a temporary ban of one hour, which should be enough to dissuade/interrupt any argument, and generate a chat log reporting the player to the devs.
With this the hunt begins and after multiple temporary bans the devs would judge the cases and put life-time bans as they see fit.
Reworking Wild Plains would certainly improve the quality of Global Chat as a whole too. People would have too much fun to argue over silly stuff, i’m sure! 🙂
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### Author:  [@Presto](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Presto)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2018, 6:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/global-chat-and-you/46788/35 "2018-10-03T18:53:56Z")
This is the reality of this situation:
Words only have power over you IF AND ONLY IF YOU GIVE THEM THAT POWER!
You have the ability to IGNORE ANYTHING YOU WANT! So use it!
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### Author:  [@Ashasekayi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashasekayi)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2018, 6:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/global-chat-and-you/46788/36 "2018-10-03T18:54:10Z")
> [@Razzagor](#):
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> It’s a tricky situation to solve, but i think it would be interesting to have an automated response code giving “time-outs” for people using strong language/swearing.
Global chat already has a swear filter like many other games with this rating. Of course, automated solutions never work because humans invent ways around it like using symbols, acronyms, abbreviations and clique codewards.
Nothing can replace actual human moderation.
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### Author:  [@Razzagor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razzagor)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2018, 7:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/global-chat-and-you/46788/37 "2018-10-03T19:11:26Z")
Exactly, but for what human moderation can’t cover (and we know there are plenty of timely breachs as well as the inventive solutions you mentioned) i think it would be better to set a more severe automated system.
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### Author:  [@Ashasekayi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashasekayi)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2018, 7:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/global-chat-and-you/46788/38 "2018-10-03T19:34:36Z")
I get what you meant. My point is that they can’t make the automated system more severe. Automated swear filters will misfire on words such as the Japanese word shita or the troop cockatrice. They are completely fallible and should never be used to give people time-outs or other punishments.
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### Author:  [@MatrimCauthon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MatrimCauthon)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2018, 7:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/global-chat-and-you/46788/39 "2018-10-03T19:36:18Z")
I don’t like blocking anyone. I use it rarely and with caution. Because if i cannot see what they say, how is that helping me know what’s going on?
Open all the doors. Close the ones that are truly offensive or spamtroll. And occasionally, two people have a rift and it cannot be mended. But if i block with impunity at first mad moment, I would have missed out on many of y’all that I consider friends now. And some I still think are awful, but I respect their right to live/chat in that space, too.
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### Author:  [@Razzagor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razzagor)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2018, 8:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/global-chat-and-you/46788/40 "2018-10-03T20:03:17Z")
> [@Ashasekayi](#):
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> Automated swear filters will misfire on words such as the Japanese word shita or the troop cockatrice. They are completely fallible…
For cockatrice and some words the devs should surely wordproof all names and keywords from troops, but you do have a good point. We can’t just expect chat moderation to a reasonable extent, because any time it fails, and it’ll fail, things can get ugly as in during a stream like we saw.
What happened, no matter how some look at it, could just as well happens with others and it’s bound to happen again.
I have a personnal saying that goes: “Buddah wouldn’t reach a transcedental state of spirit if he would spend at least half an hour a day on the internet.” 😅
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