# Giant Spider rework but no refund?

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/giant-spider-rework-but-no-refund/4385>\
**Category:** Support\
**Created:** [March 10, 2016, 8:25am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/giant-spider-rework-but-no-refund/4385 "2016-03-10T08:25:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![Syraniss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@Syraniss](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Syraniss)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2016, 8:25am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/giant-spider-rework-but-no-refund/4385/1 "2016-03-10T08:25:04Z")

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Any chance at getting Giant Spider added to the list of refundable monsters? A lot of monsters that got much smaller changes were put on the list but this creature got a completely skill rework and was left off. I understand that the original post says they will be offered “when we make balance changes to a troop with a net negative result” and that are completely at the discretion of the dev team but it’s hard to measure the change in this case because the ability was completely reworked to do something very different from what it did before.

The two abilities cannot be reasonably compared and thus are not net negative or positive but instead completely different. In cases like these refund should be offered as well as it can completely change the troops dynamic and team value. This may be a relative minor troop that most people don’t care about but I feel it sets a bad precedent for future changes.

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**Author:** ![Nimhain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nimhain/32/47049_2.png) [@Nimhain](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nimhain)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2016, 10:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/giant-spider-rework-but-no-refund/4385/2 "2016-03-10T10:59:18Z")

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Yeah, that’s reasonable. We didn’t add it as we didn’t consider it a nerf, but we’ll add it in the next 24 hrs or so.

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**Author:** ![kzintiwife](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kzintiwife/32/2350_2.png) [@kzintiwife](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/kzintiwife)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2016, 2:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/giant-spider-rework-but-no-refund/4385/3 "2016-03-11T14:37:17Z")

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is there an official thread we can put these? I wouldn’t have know about this response and with everything going on yesterday i know i missed some posts.

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**Author:** ![Sirrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sirrian/32/35758_2.png) [@Sirrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sirrian)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2016, 3:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/giant-spider-rework-but-no-refund/4385/4 "2016-03-11T15:47:55Z")

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We’re keeping track of most changes here, at the top of the thread:

> [@1.0.9 - Known Issues](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/1-0-9-known-issues/4372):
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> Hey Guys, Just wanted to create place where we’ll list out issues players have been encountering and keep you updated on our current progress with them. Revenant Vengeance spell is Death marking his last ally. Status: Fix has been put out Game has download error when trying to enter the Ice and Fire battle in Blighted Lands. Status: Fix has been put out Killing Abhorath in the battles is crashing the game. Status: We’ve changed the way his legendary trait Sacrifice works and put the fix out…