# Gems of Streaming

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gems-of-streaming/30463>\
**Category:** Official News\
**Created:** [September 18, 2017, 11:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gems-of-streaming/30463 "2017-09-18T23:46:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Nullings](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nullings/32/39207_2.png) [@Nullings](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nullings)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2021, 4:48am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gems-of-streaming/30463/4313 "2021-07-07T04:48:14Z")

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On the Gnome-A-Palooza - a separate thread: [Gnome-A-Palooza preview discussion](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gnome-a-palooza-preview-discussion/70821)

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**Author:** ![Sytro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Sytro](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sytro)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2021, 7:38am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gems-of-streaming/30463/4314 "2021-07-07T07:38:58Z")

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> [@Mina1101](#):
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> When should this update be released?

Looking at previous experience - it can be anywhere from 1 to 3 weeks from official stream.  
Official stream usualy means that new versions of apps was already pushed to publishers and are waiting for validation before they show up in their respective stores.

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**Author:** ![UKresistance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ukresistance/32/7558_2.png) [@UKresistance](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/UKresistance)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2021, 11:28am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gems-of-streaming/30463/4315 "2021-07-09T11:28:15Z")

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> [@Lyrian](#):
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> Side note: The devs currently do not have the functionality to manually manipulate the Adventure Board. May be added as a dev tool in 5.7.

I always assumed they could and did 🧐

Hopefully they take some advantage of potential new tool to toss an extra war coin or deed our way.

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**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2021, 12:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gems-of-streaming/30463/4316 "2021-07-09T12:00:08Z")

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> [@UKresistance](#):
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> I always assumed they could and did

I imagine it would be kind of difficult to have those special red tasks on special event days if they couldn’t. 🤨

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**Author:** ![NerdieBirdie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nerdiebirdie/32/103793_2.png) [@NerdieBirdie](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/NerdieBirdie)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2021, 12:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gems-of-streaming/30463/4317 "2021-07-09T12:46:55Z")

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![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/c/b/cb85d2e9a310d2c5f80e2b7d08902a6f746fc015.png)

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**Author:** ![sls](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sls/32/66687_2.png) [@sls](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/sls)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2021, 3:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gems-of-streaming/30463/4318 "2021-07-09T15:22:26Z")

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They might not have a dedicated tool… to suggest it’s impossible for them to manually change entries in their database if they wanted or needed to is just random crap to throw out there to shut people up though.

- 👉 too hard to implement/fix
- not enough computing power on the planet
- can’t reproduce in-house
- 👉 can’t spare developer time
- parent company controls every detail at IP2
- too overworked and in need of a holiday
- out of the office right now
- must’ve slipped past QA
- 👉 bugn’t

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**Author:** ![Lyrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyrian/32/61071_2.png) [@Lyrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyrian)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2021, 2:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gems-of-streaming/30463/4319 "2021-07-10T14:35:00Z")

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> [@UKresistance](#):
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> I always assumed they could and did

You and me both.

> [@UKresistance](#):
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> Hopefully they take some advantage of potential new tool to toss an extra war coin or deed our way.

Warcoins not appearing on the adventure board was the justification given on-stream for why the tool would be created.

> [@Fourdottwoone](#):
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> I imagine it would be kind of difficult to have those special red tasks on special event days if they couldn’t.

I’ve thought about this and it might be possible to be correct logic that requires a bit of mental gymnastics to get there. So here we go.

We know at this point the randomly generated world event encounter list is just a file of linear encounters that are randomly created once for that world event and then distributed to everyone.

We also know that quite awhile back there was an internal push to automate weekly processes (this was one of the justifications for world events being created).

What if… there are other processes in-game that behave similarly?

You know what would be a near-perfect candidate for this behavior? The Adventure Board.

What if… the Adventure Board is simply a randomly generated file of results that is generated internally once in a great while (say… once per update period)? If that is the case, then this hypothetical missing context starts to make the comments on stream make sense.

So, if the AB is generated once every several months, the context for special events then becomes that they later added the functionality for them to tell the AB file generation tool to forcibly add in the specific special events _ **at the time the file was generated** _ (which would be correct, as special events did not exist when ABs were first brought into the game).

Ok, but that still leaves the gorilla in the room, which still smells fishy.

> [@sls](#):
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> They might not have a dedicated tool… to suggest it’s impossible for them to manually change entries in their database if they wanted or needed to

Yeah, this doesn’t pass the sniff test with me either.

I would find it hard to believe the file contains rows of data any more complicated than…

[Date] [RolledReward1ID] [RolledReward2ID] [RolledReward3ID]

… as the file is purely an output file from the generation tool they are using.

The implied claim that this file is inaccessible once generated is highly dubious. Surely, this concept was internally tested before being released (it had to be at it offered potential strong player rewards, which highly likely had to have publisher approval), and there was a debug/testing mode for it. And that internal functionality just disappeared when ABs went live? Nah.

What probably happened was something like this:

- The random generation tool was tested internally many times and found to work correctly over large numbers of runs.
- The publisher signs off on the tool’s usage after review of the output (It’s been said in the past the publisher has to sign off on all significant rewards given to players).
- When WarCoins were introduced, the devs as usual procedure for the AB, generated a run of the AB file for that update.
- Murphy’s Law kicks in and generates an negative outlier result regarding WarCoins.
- No one catches it (or possibly even checks for it, as they might have only been concerned about the AB generating too good of an reward table, an outlier in the positive direction) and the publisher signs off on the output file.
- Later on, the issue is identified regarding WarCoins, but the stance given on stream is that the file couldn’t be edited once the issue was recognized.

So… that leads to an internal policy discussion that we as players would never be privy to hearing.

- Was I+2 bound to the results of the output file once the generated and/or the publisher signs off on it?
- Did I+2 not want to admit the issue to 505, as in their mind the error was minor?
- A little bit of both? Or more?

We’ll never know. The end result of all of this, is that a tool is likely being made for 5.7 to be some sort of sanity check on the output file before going live (the emergency editing thing claim again seems highly dubious on its face).

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**Author:** ![Nullings](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nullings/32/39207_2.png) [@Nullings](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nullings)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2021, 4:54am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gems-of-streaming/30463/4320 "2021-07-12T04:54:36Z")

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Will we see a new faction tomorrow?

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**Author:** ![esslee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/esslee/32/103072_2.png) [@esslee](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/esslee)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2021, 5:12am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gems-of-streaming/30463/4321 "2021-07-12T05:12:36Z")

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New delve is due on Friday 23 July - Dark Court

> **[GoW Kingdom Spoilers](https://www.taransworld.com/Spoilers/?d=kingdoms)**
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> TaransWorld Gems Of War GoW Kingdom Spoilers

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**Author:** ![Saltypatra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/saltypatra/32/59750_2.png) [@Saltypatra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Saltypatra)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 1:03am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gems-of-streaming/30463/4322 "2021-07-13T01:03:40Z")

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Change of plans since there’s been a chance in the schedule, low key stream today with me playing more Gonamapalooza.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jonathan/32/66724_2.png) [@Jonathan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jonathan)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 7:37am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gems-of-streaming/30463/4323 "2021-07-13T07:37:56Z")

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> [@Saltypatra](#):
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> Gonamapalooza

Close! 😅

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**Author:** ![NerdieBirdie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nerdiebirdie/32/103793_2.png) [@NerdieBirdie](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/NerdieBirdie)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 12:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gems-of-streaming/30463/4324 "2021-07-13T12:41:44Z")

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Gonamapaolaza!

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**Author:** ![XLS78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/b2d939/32.png) [@XLS78](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/XLS78)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 1:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gems-of-streaming/30463/4325 "2021-07-13T13:37:23Z")

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![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/8/b/8b1c9931721ed45045f975735d4a8a7c92bae63c.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Saltypatra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/saltypatra/32/59750_2.png) [@Saltypatra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Saltypatra)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2021, 3:46am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gems-of-streaming/30463/4326 "2021-07-16T03:46:53Z")

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> [@Saltypatra](#):
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> **19th July 6 30 PM PDT:** Community stream + Hatir and Skroll campaign mythic preview. Word on the street is bingo might be making a come back…

Some cheeky changes…

 ![bingo plain](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/e/6/e6bb7f401183b2c411775790f829c9bdd7c32d8c.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Saltypatra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/saltypatra/32/59750_2.png) [@Saltypatra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Saltypatra)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 8:48am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gems-of-streaming/30463/4327 "2021-07-19T08:48:43Z")

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And here it is! The Bingo sheet for tomorrow. \<3

 ![stream bingo](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/f/a/fa16145a3e895fdbf6d140370def7e9aa713bb83.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 10:29am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gems-of-streaming/30463/4328 "2021-07-19T10:29:59Z")

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What is VA here? Voice-acting? Audio-visual but in reverse because everything is upside down in Australia?

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**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 10:42am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gems-of-streaming/30463/4329 "2021-07-19T10:42:45Z")

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4 corners and the bottom line are nearly guaranteed lol

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**Author:** ![Saltypatra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/saltypatra/32/59750_2.png) [@Saltypatra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Saltypatra)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 1:42am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gems-of-streaming/30463/4330 "2021-07-26T01:42:52Z")

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> [@Saltypatra](#):
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> **2nd August 6 30 PM PDT:** Astral Mother mythic preview stream.
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> **9th August 6 30 PM PDT:** Break/Pet stream! We have lots of pet celebrations this month, so let’s talk all things pets, and maybe have a pet or 1 in a code! Let’s talks pets and quality of life suggestions.
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> **16th August 6 30 PM PDT:** TBC.
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> **23rd August 6 30 PM PDT:** Ullor Mythic preview stream.
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> **30th August 6 30 PM PDT:** Faction preview stream.

Pew pew! New stream schedule is here.

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**Author:** ![Swarly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5fc32e/32.png) [@Swarly](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Swarly)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 6:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gems-of-streaming/30463/4331 "2021-07-26T06:55:42Z")

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More bingo this week?

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**Author:** ![Cooookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/cooookie/32/55339_2.png) [@Cooookie](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Cooookie)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 12:25am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gems-of-streaming/30463/4332 "2021-07-27T00:25:49Z")

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No stream tonight or did I read your post wrong? (usa 7/26/2021)

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