# Gems in defense battles?

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gems-in-defense-battles/1845>\
**Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\
**Created:** [December 11, 2015, 8:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gems-in-defense-battles/1845 "2015-12-11T20:23:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![Elendil52](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/4da419/32.png) [@Elendil52](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Elendil52)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2015, 8:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gems-in-defense-battles/1845/1 "2015-12-11T20:23:06Z")

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I got a gem once for a defense victory. At first I assumed it might be a glitch or something, but in another thread someone else mentioned it happening to them as well. Is there some formula to this? Is it a freak occurrence? I don’t remember seeing anything about winning gems for successful defenses in patch notes or anything, but I’m really curious to see if this is actually a thing.

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**Author:** ![Tacet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tacet/32/35_2.png) [@Tacet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tacet)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2015, 9:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gems-in-defense-battles/1845/2 "2015-12-11T21:50:45Z")

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It is a feature that is suppose to happen and has always been in effect since defend rewards started. It is suppose to reward 1 gem for every 7+ cascade the AI makes on your behalf. The formula in which it payouts does not seem to coincide with gems actually earned though, otherwise most people would get a gem or two from defends most every reset; whereas in actuality, most people have never received one and if so only one ever.

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**Author:** ![ZIGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19adc/32.png) [@ZIGS](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ZIGS)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2015, 9:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gems-in-defense-battles/1845/3 "2015-12-11T21:51:02Z")

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Maybe when you get a defense victory and you (well, the AI) gets a 7-gem cascade, instead of a treasure map you get a gem, like it was before. It never happened to me tho, just throwing an idea out there

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**Author:** ![Tacet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tacet/32/35_2.png) [@Tacet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tacet)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2015, 9:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gems-in-defense-battles/1845/4 "2015-12-11T21:53:23Z")

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It is also suppose to reward keys when the AI happens to get a key from matching, but that one not occurring is a lot more understandable than 7+ cascades.

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**Author:** ![ZIGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19adc/32.png) [@ZIGS](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ZIGS)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2015, 11:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gems-in-defense-battles/1845/5 "2015-12-11T23:23:02Z")

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Actually I get a lot more keys from gem matches than treasure maps from cascades (when attacking of course)

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**Author:** ![Tacet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tacet/32/35_2.png) [@Tacet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tacet)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2015, 11:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gems-in-defense-battles/1845/6 "2015-12-11T23:55:34Z")

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It depends on your type of team. Gem spawns and board manipulation get more gems than other builds.