# Gem from a Defeat?

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-from-a-defeat/2137>\
**Category:** Gameplay Chat (General)\
**Created:** [December 19, 2015, 7:22am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-from-a-defeat/2137 "2015-12-19T07:22:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![Namour](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/namour/32/2957_2.png) [@Namour](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Namour)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2015, 7:22am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-from-a-defeat/2137/1 "2015-12-19T07:22:33Z")

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I once recall having a gem from a Defence Victory…but a gem & glory from a defeat?

 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/3/3e63e19cb04eb6f1df4035389e0868a9991a4402.jpg)

This with a Legendary Fortress Gate defence…

Any explanations/ideas?

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**Author:** ![Sidousai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sidousai/32/604_2.png) [@Sidousai](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sidousai)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2015, 7:26am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-from-a-defeat/2137/2 "2015-12-19T07:26:33Z")

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I’m guessing the Defense is still following the old convention where 7-cascade match in a row gives you gem instead of a map.

So… even tho you lost. It probably means you pulled off a 7-cascade match during the AI Defense?  
Again, I’m just guessing here.

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**Author:** ![Venan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/venan/32/17175_2.png) [@Venan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Venan)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2015, 8:01am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-from-a-defeat/2137/3 "2015-12-19T08:01:57Z")

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Since they introduced the defense rewards (almost a year I think), I got a gem as a reward only once. So I wouldn’t rely on it much.

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**Author:** ![Tacet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tacet/32/35_2.png) [@Tacet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tacet)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2015, 3:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-from-a-defeat/2137/4 "2015-12-19T15:41:54Z")

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I believe they may have fixed their formula in 1.0.8, for I hear a lot of people starting to get a gem or key from defends. I just got my first defend key this morning when I won 2 defends.

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**Author:** ![ZIGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19adc/32.png) [@ZIGS](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ZIGS)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2015, 4:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-from-a-defeat/2137/5 "2015-12-19T16:23:54Z")

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Yeah and they also give 3 glory instead of just one. A step into the right direction

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**Author:** ![bluebehir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/bluebehir/32/1554_2.png) [@bluebehir](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/bluebehir)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 5:10am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-from-a-defeat/2137/6 "2015-12-20T05:10:29Z")

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yeah I had a victory and it gave me three glory, and more gold than I usually used to get.