# Gem Dragon Egg - RNG Will Not Give 6th Dragon
**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-dragon-egg-rng-will-not-give-6th-dragon/80159
**Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback
**Created:** [June 6, 2023, 8:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-dragon-egg-rng-will-not-give-6th-dragon/80159 "2023-06-06T08:47:12Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 3
### Author:  [@Stratelier](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stratelier)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2023, 5:48pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-dragon-egg-rng-will-not-give-6th-dragon/80159/41 "2023-06-12T17:48:54Z")
> [@Fleet](#):
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> I get most of my mythic ingots from delves – and forging them from lower-level ingots.
Same here, my point was how the only things you can spend them on are finite in number. The Ingots “economy” has a recurring “faucet” but no likewise recurring “drain” … it’s almost like accumulating Treasure Maps, except with zero ability to actually use or spend them.
Also, I just got Topasarth (new) today, making a 4th gem dragon in 8 eggs (a cumulative streak of crafting 3 eggs for one new dragon). Still cannot craft any of the Dragonite weapons (missing Sapphirax for one and Garnetaerlin for the other), and the probabilities only get worse from here. Overall, I have 4:2:1:1 in Amethialas, Rubirath, Emeraldrin and now Topasarth.
Update: And the pet milestone dropped a Major Orb of Chaos, so Topasarth is now fully ready for action (saves me from needing a handful of Celestial stones and a huge pile of Arcanes).
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### Author:  [@MIXAH](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MIXAH)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2023, 7:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-dragon-egg-rng-will-not-give-6th-dragon/80159/42 "2023-06-12T19:51:10Z")
After a while, you kinda forget ingots exist. I have 10s of thousands of each.
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### Author:  [@MIXAH](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MIXAH)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2023, 7:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-dragon-egg-rng-will-not-give-6th-dragon/80159/43 "2023-06-12T19:52:55Z")
Some of us are just very lucky I suppose.
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### Author:  [@ZeeJuggler](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ZeeJuggler)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2023, 8:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-dragon-egg-rng-will-not-give-6th-dragon/80159/44 "2023-06-13T08:31:20Z")
And my 24th crafted Dragon… was my 7th Garnetaerlin…so up to 12,000 used for just four unique dragons.
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### Author:  [@ZeeJuggler](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ZeeJuggler)
#### Post date: [June 17, 2023, 12:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-dragon-egg-rng-will-not-give-6th-dragon/80159/45 "2023-06-17T12:11:03Z")
25th dragon was my 8th Sapphirax. Still only 4 unique dragons. I see myself quitting the game permanently should this ‘luck’ continue to next mythic Friday.
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### Author:  [@Stratelier](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stratelier)
#### Post date: [June 17, 2023, 11:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-dragon-egg-rng-will-not-give-6th-dragon/80159/46 "2023-06-17T23:54:17Z")
> [@ZeeJuggler](#):
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> 25th dragon was my 8th Sapphirax. Still only 4 unique dragons.
Ouch, that places you at an approximately 6% cumulative probability.
I am still logging more data in my spreadsheet as people post – for example, here is how it breaks down by day-of-week:
> **Explanation/caveats**
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> - The gray columns on the right aggregate the data per day-of-week: mean, standard deviation, and maximum deviation (relative to standard deviation). For example, on Wednesdays the mean is about 3 dragons, but the maximum deviation is 1 Emeraldrin ( = 2 below mean, or about 2.7 standard deviations).
> - “Unspecified” indicates aggregate data that is lacking confirmed craft dates (because not everyone posts or tracks gem dragons as they craft them). It is still included in other analyses and aggregates.
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### Author:  [@SevenSidedBox](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/SevenSidedBox)
#### Post date: [June 18, 2023, 12:32am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-dragon-egg-rng-will-not-give-6th-dragon/80159/47 "2023-06-18T00:32:11Z")
> [@ZeeJuggler](#):
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> 25th dragon was my 8th Sapphirax. Still only 4 unique dragons. I see myself quitting the game permanently should this ‘luck’ continue to next mythic Friday.
Too bad there’s no trading cause Sapphirax is the last one I need.
Stratelier, you can add one datapoint from me. I got an Amethialas on a Friday. I remember this because I still needed the purple and blue dragons and I figure why not open an egg only during those days where the adventure board colors match. It worked this time but looking at your chart, it might have been just dumb luck.
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### Author:  [@ZeeJuggler](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ZeeJuggler)
#### Post date: [June 18, 2023, 2:25am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-dragon-egg-rng-will-not-give-6th-dragon/80159/48 "2023-06-18T02:25:59Z")
I’m not sure how you are calculating the chance of 6%…I’ve now had 17 duplicates in a row…so ‘what is the chance of rolling a 67% probability outcome (i.e. the four dragons I already have) 17 times in a row?’.
Perhaps my maths is wrong, but 4/6 ^ 17 ~ 0.1%.
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### Author:  [@Stratelier](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stratelier)
#### Post date: [June 18, 2023, 2:58am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-dragon-egg-rng-will-not-give-6th-dragon/80159/49 "2023-06-18T02:58:17Z")
> [@ZeeJuggler](#):
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> Perhaps my maths is wrong, but 4/6 ^ 17 ~ 0.1%.
That’s the correct math for a streak.
I was calculating the cumulative probability _across all 28 eggs._
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### Author:  [@Khan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Khan)
#### Post date: [June 18, 2023, 5:03am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-dragon-egg-rng-will-not-give-6th-dragon/80159/50 "2023-06-18T05:03:22Z")
> [@ZeeJuggler](#):
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> I see myself quitting the game permanently should this ‘luck’ continue to next mythic Friday.
And it’s a sorry thing to say, but the devs won’t care if you quit. They aren’t interested in retaining anyone. You’re just a potential dollar sign to them. “There’s a sucker born every minute”, and to them it’s all of us.
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### Author:  [@Globey](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Globey)
#### Post date: [June 18, 2023, 1:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-dragon-egg-rng-will-not-give-6th-dragon/80159/51 "2023-06-18T13:44:32Z")
LOL I’ve been trying to get the yellow Boss Dragon for 3 months now. Good thing I have the yellow Sagittarius Mythic Troop, which is better.
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### Author:  [@Khan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Khan)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2023, 4:01am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-dragon-egg-rng-will-not-give-6th-dragon/80159/52 "2023-06-22T04:01:41Z")
Yup. Just tried the 6th egg I’ve scraped and saved the dragonnite together for and hoping for a 4th dragon. Nope. I now have 3 of a kind with Sapphirax. 50% of my dragons all of just one. So disappointing.
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### Author:  [@Stratelier](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stratelier)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2023, 6:09am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-dragon-egg-rng-will-not-give-6th-dragon/80159/53 "2023-06-22T06:09:40Z")
Out of curiosity (and data plotting) what are the other two colors you have?
You’re still technically in better shape than me, I had 7 total eggs before getting a 4th new dragon.
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### Author:  [@DAeron](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DAeron)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2023, 12:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-dragon-egg-rng-will-not-give-6th-dragon/80159/54 "2023-06-22T12:06:17Z")
Theres a player i talked to today that claims he got 1700 dragonite on a vault weekend using only around 20 paloozas and he waited for them to finish if he encountered a dragonite gnome.
Maybe we’re all doing it wrong but then again i cant seem to make dragonite gnomes appear at all and i used 14 paloozas last vault event.
Personally its not something that is required for \>me\< to enjoy the game and im not putting anymore wasted effort into it. I’ll probably never ger Dia and thats fine with me.
Good luck
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### Author:  [@13Z50P](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/13Z50P)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2023, 1:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-dragon-egg-rng-will-not-give-6th-dragon/80159/55 "2023-06-22T13:36:27Z")
I may get one per palooza. Need over a few minutes remaining to get full chance. I believe I’ve received 50-60 when I waited for it to end. Getting twenty 85s in a row sounds suspect.
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### Author:  [@ZeeJuggler](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ZeeJuggler)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2023, 2:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-dragon-egg-rng-will-not-give-6th-dragon/80159/56 "2023-06-22T14:41:36Z")
26th Dragon was my 9th Sapphirax. Still only four unique dragons.
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### Author:  [@Taita](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Taita)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2023, 7:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-dragon-egg-rng-will-not-give-6th-dragon/80159/57 "2023-06-22T19:16:52Z")
Now imagine this luck. It took me 6!
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### Author:  [@Kelana](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kelana)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2023, 8:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-dragon-egg-rng-will-not-give-6th-dragon/80159/58 "2023-06-22T20:59:25Z")
> [@13Z50P](#):
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> I may get one per palooza. Need over a few minutes remaining to get full chance. I believe I’ve received 50-60 when I waited for it to end. Getting twenty 85s in a row sounds suspect.
I picked up just under 800 dragonite last vault weekend. 1700 sounds a bit no-sleep, but possibly doable.
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### Author:  [@Stratelier](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stratelier)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2023, 11:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-dragon-egg-rng-will-not-give-6th-dragon/80159/59 "2023-06-22T23:49:58Z")
> [@Taita](#):
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> Now imagine this luck. It took me 6!
Neat, that makes … at least 3 users who obtained the full set with no dupes.
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### Author:  [@Hayabusa](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Hayabusa)
#### Post date: [June 22, 2023, 11:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-dragon-egg-rng-will-not-give-6th-dragon/80159/60 "2023-06-22T23:55:50Z")
It took me 7/8 eggs (I opened 2 at once with 1 being the last dragon). But I rarely get any Dragonite and probably won’t get my first Diamantina before 2025. 🤔
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