# Gem Dragon Community Drop Rates **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\ **Created:** [October 9, 2022, 6:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-dragon-community-drop-rates/77297 "2022-10-09T18:23:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Skorpion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de053/32.png) [@Skorpion](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Skorpion)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2023, 10:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-dragon-community-drop-rates/77297/145 "2023-02-11T22:16:51Z")
![gow_003_11022023_231315](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/9/6/96d6edfa059b8b2fc7b4ce4a7241544073169c99.jpeg) Ty 505 Games and Infinity Plus Two 😃 Ybana gra 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jonathan/32/66724_2.png) [@Jonathan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jonathan)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2023, 10:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-dragon-community-drop-rates/77297/146 "2023-02-11T22:53:30Z")
Ouch ☹ ---
**Author:** ![KINGOLLIE](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kingollie/32/74564_2.png) [@KINGOLLIE](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/KINGOLLIE)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2023, 10:32am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-dragon-community-drop-rates/77297/147 "2023-02-12T10:32:24Z")
![IMG_1315](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/2/7/27db7495fcf4dee9175a77bacc7bb16626d6590b.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![holyporko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/holyporko/32/75733_2.png) [@holyporko](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/holyporko)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2023, 10:35am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-dragon-community-drop-rates/77297/149 "2023-02-12T10:35:34Z")
Very similar situation here. Garnet desaparecido … ---
**Author:** ![Palaryel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Palaryel](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Palaryel)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2023, 5:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-dragon-community-drop-rates/77297/150 "2023-02-12T17:50:28Z")
Crafted 5 Eggs so far, no dupes yet. The one I’m missing is Garnetaerlin (Brown) . Well see how many dupes come before I drop him now 😃 ---
**Author:** ![esslee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/esslee/32/103072_2.png) [@esslee](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/esslee)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 2:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-dragon-community-drop-rates/77297/152 "2023-02-13T14:45:25Z")
Another 3 weeks on, 27 eggs hatched and still no sixth dragon ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/9/f/9f63e63257b0ecff63f873400a134cb90dc5c92e.jpeg) Egg 1 = Rubirath Egg 2 = Garnetaerlin Egg 4 = Emeraldrin Egg 7 = Sapphirax Egg 16 = Amethialas Egg 27…still looking ---
**Author:** ![Diamond](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/diamond/32/84316_2.png) [@Diamond](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Diamond)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 4:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-dragon-community-drop-rates/77297/153 "2023-02-13T16:14:57Z")
4x Amethialas | x2 Smaragdgrün | x1 Garnetaerlin | 3. Rubirath today my 4. amethialas and smaragdgrün ---
**Author:** ![MattDB87](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mattdb87/32/67274_2.png) [@MattDB87](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MattDB87)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 7:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-dragon-community-drop-rates/77297/154 "2023-02-13T19:43:50Z")
I just crafted 3 dragons from the dragonite I earned from doing the vault event all weekend and it game me 3 blue dragons in a row!!! ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/f/0/f09dd7ffcf361435cc31505fa23680ada6610a76.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Hayabusa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hayabusa/32/85130_2.png) [@Hayabusa](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Hayabusa)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 8:28pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-dragon-community-drop-rates/77297/155 "2023-02-13T20:28:25Z")
I’d give you 1 purple in exchange for 1 red and 1 yellow dragon, if trading was possible. 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Palaryel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Palaryel](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Palaryel)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2023, 2:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-dragon-community-drop-rates/77297/156 "2023-02-16T14:43:03Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/7/6/76ef5b4e5c2da15fc46cdae13e8c762bf9d1890c.jpeg) first dupe today 😃 gonna craft the 1 ring i can now, before hatching more, screw it 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Setekh79](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/setekh79/32/101761_2.png) [@Setekh79](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Setekh79)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2023, 5:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-dragon-community-drop-rates/77297/157 "2023-02-16T17:19:28Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/6/8/68812be14f2e7e2220e0ee699c752723496d8830.jpeg) Finally, got Topasarth today, I’m done with this RNG nonsense, just need the weapon and 2x Diamantina and I can never look at this awful mechanic again. ---
**Author:** ![Skorpion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de053/32.png) [@Skorpion](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Skorpion)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2023, 5:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-dragon-community-drop-rates/77297/158 "2023-02-16T17:51:25Z")
😃 ![gow_002_16022023_184920](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/e/6/e6590407b76ac55dbe0f092e9991e8731b797945.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Palaryel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Palaryel](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Palaryel)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2023, 7:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-dragon-community-drop-rates/77297/159 "2023-02-16T19:21:57Z")
why 2x Diamantina?? ---
**Author:** ![Stratelier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/977dab/32.png) [@Stratelier](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stratelier)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2023, 8:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-dragon-community-drop-rates/77297/160 "2023-02-16T20:58:26Z")
> [@Skorpion](#): > > ![gow_002_16022023_184920](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/e/6/e6590407b76ac55dbe0f092e9991e8731b797945.jpeg) Believe it or not, that represents an overall probability of \>5% (6.17% to be more exact) and is not actually as unlikely as it feels. > **The explanation is ... complicated** > > In concept, the calculation is “easy”: > > - Just calculate the # of outcomes based on “N” different dragons after “X” eggs crafted, and divide by the total # outcomes (6^X) to get your probability. > - The total # outcomes can be calculated as: (all possible permutations of any N colors) \* (all possible distributions of X eggs comprising N unique colors). e.g. 1 color after 1 egg is obviously 6 outcomes (out of 6), 2 colors after 2 eggs is 6 \* 5 outcomes (out of 6^2), and 3 colors after 3 eggs is 6 \* 5 \* 4 outcomes (out of 6^3). > - The # of color permutations is easy: =permut(6,N). > - The # of distributions is the difficult part, involves something known as [Stirling numbers of the second kind](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stirling_numbers_of_the_second_kind) and can’t really be calculated directly, but it does have simple _recursive_ definition that makes it easy to compile a table of values to reference. > > In your case: > > - 5 unique colors = 720 color permutations (because, in theory, you could have just as easily received 9 Sapphirax, or 9 Topasarth, instead of 9 Emeraldrin) > - 25 eggs across 5 colors = _(get ready for it)_ = 2 436 684 974 110 751\* different distributions > - Total outcomes = 6^25 = … 284 302 880 299 297 001 376\* > - Overall probability = _6.17%_ > > \*- _(exceeds the precision limit for most data types, but is accurate up to 15 digits so the margin of error is negligible)_ > [@Diamond](#): > > Smaragdgrün Green dragon right? (aka. the only one that’s _not_ an obvious cognate between English and German names). ---
**Author:** ![sylverscale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@sylverscale](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/sylverscale)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 1:51am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-dragon-community-drop-rates/77297/161 "2023-02-17T01:51:16Z")
It’s great for E12 farming. Currently fastest team in the game (with essencia and leprechaun). ---
**Author:** ![Diamond](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/diamond/32/84316_2.png) [@Diamond](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Diamond)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 8:27am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-dragon-community-drop-rates/77297/163 "2023-02-17T08:27:27Z")
Yes. The green dragon! ---
**Author:** ![TonyVinci](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/90ced4/32.png) [@TonyVinci](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TonyVinci)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 2:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-dragon-community-drop-rates/77297/164 "2023-02-17T14:39:52Z")
FINALLY! A NEW DRAGOn! 8 EGGS - 4 AMETHIALASES, 3 GARNETAERLINS AND FINALLY TOPASARTH! ---
**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 2:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-dragon-community-drop-rates/77297/165 "2023-02-17T14:56:24Z")
> [@TonyVinci](#): > > FINALLY! A NEW DRAGOn! 8 EGGS - 4 AMETHIALASES, 3 GARNETAERLINS AND FINALLY TOPASARTH! Quote from some other game: “Son, we just crossed the street. Let’s not throw a party 'til we’re outta the city.” Still, grats on making progress. 😀 ---
**Author:** ![Palaryel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Palaryel](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Palaryel)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 3:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-dragon-community-drop-rates/77297/166 "2023-02-17T15:32:29Z")
to be quite honest, I dont mind the RNG part of getting the dragons that much. I do mind how Dragonite from Dungeons is implemented. It should have been something like: no traps triggered 120 Dragonite (current) 1 trap triggered -75% (30) Dragonite received 2 traps triggered -90% (12) Dragonite received that way you would still progress slowly even when failing and it wouldnt feel like shit once you fail ---
**Author:** ![TonyVinci](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/90ced4/32.png) [@TonyVinci](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TonyVinci)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 3:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-dragon-community-drop-rates/77297/167 "2023-02-17T15:49:33Z")
And maybe they should add a trap disabling (somebody have already said about this). As example you pay 100 gems for disabling 1 trap, 200 gems for the second one. Then you can get 120 dragonite even if you trigger both of traps (but you need to pay 300 gems). [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-dragon-community-drop-rates/77297.md?page=7) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gem-dragon-community-drop-rates/77297.md?page=9)