# Frozen Stiff **URL:** \ **Category:** Official News\ **Created:** [August 22, 2021, 10:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/frozen-stiff/71586 "2021-08-22T22:59:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![sylverscale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@sylverscale](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/sylverscale)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2021, 10:23am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/frozen-stiff/71586/43 "2021-08-25T10:23:12Z")
> [@Fourdottwoone](#): > > They truly believe that this kind of scoring makes the world event more interesting for players That happens when you let the numbers person have a say in how things should go. They probably love crunching numbers so that must be fun and exciting. Right? No, really… We don’t love it, guys. We hate it. It’s not exciting. It doesn’t make the world events feel different from each other. It just adds another layer of annoyance. ---
**Author:** ![ESR77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6bbea6/32.png) [@ESR77](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ESR77)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2021, 12:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/frozen-stiff/71586/44 "2021-08-26T00:47:19Z")
Fair enough, but I still believe that the random multipliers are at least partially about preventing ties. Even if the reasoning was that they actually thought this was a good idea to begin with, as you pointed out, there has been plenty of time for them to react to the overwhelmingly negative feedback over 5+ campaigns. Nobody likes having to explain this nonsense to their guild (almost) every week. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2021, 1:18am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/frozen-stiff/71586/45 "2021-08-26T01:18:17Z")
I try to understand what Stonehammer is yelling when you cast his spell, but without any luck. Anyone knows? Curiosity took over. ---
**Author:** ![Wow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/wow/32/76075_2.png) [@Wow](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Wow)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2021, 2:34am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/frozen-stiff/71586/46 "2021-08-26T02:34:10Z")
It is nice to see tie scores. It is a grind so they all deserve a power orb. ---
**Author:** ![Sytro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Sytro](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sytro)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2021, 7:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/frozen-stiff/71586/47 "2021-08-26T07:56:46Z")
> [@Eika](#): > > I try to understand what Stonehammer is yelling when you cast his spell, but without any luck. Anyone knows? Curiosity took over. I’m playing with all sounds muted, so… can’t help you there. ---
**Author:** ![Esplin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/esplin/32/29725_2.png) [@Esplin](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Esplin)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2021, 8:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/frozen-stiff/71586/48 "2021-08-26T08:53:13Z")
The gems of war database has all sounds made by troops when they cast their spell. For Stonehammer, it’s: “Crimson hearts, burn within!” 🔥 ---
**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2021, 10:10am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/frozen-stiff/71586/50 "2021-08-26T10:10:22Z")
> [@ESR77](#): > > Even if the reasoning was that they actually thought this was a good idea to begin with, as you pointed out, there has been plenty of time for them to react to the overwhelmingly negative feedback over 5+ campaigns. That’s just like a year. IP2 is quite special in that regard, it takes several years for negative feedback to achieve anything. Just look at the upgrades for the first set of Doomed weapons, took them three years to finally replace the bad ones. For all we know the feedback about world event scoring hasn’t even been passed on to the design team yet, one of the officials once mentions that threads with less than 50 likes to the opening post are not considered important enough to forward. ---
**Author:** ![Neritar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/neritar/32/39263_2.png) [@Neritar](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Neritar)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2021, 11:30am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/frozen-stiff/71586/51 "2021-08-26T11:30:47Z")
> [@Fourdottwoone](#): > > one of the officials once mentions that threads with less than 50 likes to the opening post are not considered important enough to forward. It’s mind blowing… Do you have the link for that? ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2021, 11:46am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/frozen-stiff/71586/52 "2021-08-26T11:46:37Z")
Thanks! I catched the burn within correctly at least. ---
**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2021, 12:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/frozen-stiff/71586/53 "2021-08-26T12:56:38Z")
> [@Neritar](#): > > It’s mind blowing… Do you have the link for that? That was years ago, part of some discussion here about feedback getting ignored, would take quite a bit of digging. As much as I recall the short version was that the “real” devs don’t visit the forum and solely rely on a filtered summary that gets forwarded to them. I think the condition was that it has to be in the “Feature Request and Game feedback” category and must have received 50 likes, all other parts of the forum (except bug reporting) are considered a place for players to communicate with each other. It’s really pretty standard procedure for bigger software companies, you want your team shielded away working on your product, not wasting their time mingling with the unwashed masses. There’s usually some “community manager” for that job, which often boils down to getting handed some approved announcements to post on media channels and to sound an alarm whenever a big enough angry mob gathers. Streaming doesn’t tend to be part of the job profile, so I guess Salty has more responsibilities. ---
**Author:** ![Sinnycool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f14d63/32.png) [@Sinnycool](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sinnycool)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2021, 1:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/frozen-stiff/71586/54 "2021-08-26T13:02:05Z")
Pick the icey or frozen enemy other than ice golem. Its what it calls for in the lore once again same as last week. The ice golem part stupid tho ---
**Author:** ![Wow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/wow/32/76075_2.png) [@Wow](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Wow)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2021, 7:52am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/frozen-stiff/71586/55 "2021-08-27T07:52:28Z")
I am not a fan of the scoring gimmick. ---
**Author:** ![Tibo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/439d5e/32.png) [@Tibo](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tibo)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2021, 11:37am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/frozen-stiff/71586/56 "2021-08-27T11:37:26Z")
Glaycion fights pretty rare! What is this shit again? Killed this just now: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/0/5/053adc2fcddab7be5fa61e4b213dc5cb522912fa.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![sylverscale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@sylverscale](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/sylverscale)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2021, 3:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/frozen-stiff/71586/57 "2021-08-27T15:43:00Z")
I found Glaycion twice. Once around 420 points, then at 622 points. Hey, at least fighting him will never get tough. ---
**Author:** ![Tibo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/439d5e/32.png) [@Tibo](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tibo)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2021, 11:57am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/frozen-stiff/71586/58 "2021-08-28T11:57:49Z")
The worst enemy is Hive Mind in this event IMO ---
**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2021, 5:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/frozen-stiff/71586/59 "2021-08-28T17:22:54Z")
> [@Tibo](#): > > The worst enemy is Hive Mind in this event IMO My vote for worst enemy in this event goes to IP2. I wish they’d be a little less sloppy when it gets to setting up reward tiers, and a little less indifferent about correcting the worst outliers while events are still running. Good luck everybody with unlocking all rewards, it’s going to cost guilds at least an extra 500 gems from each member this week. ---
**Author:** ![Tibo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/439d5e/32.png) [@Tibo](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tibo)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2021, 5:30pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/frozen-stiff/71586/60 "2021-08-28T17:30:03Z")
I am thinking about let it go, and not push my guildies to complete the event. ---
**Author:** ![Wow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/wow/32/76075_2.png) [@Wow](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Wow)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2021, 5:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/frozen-stiff/71586/61 "2021-08-28T17:54:54Z")
Yes, it is very expensive, tier 4 is the min for each player 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Santandrix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/santandrix/32/68758_2.png) [@Santandrix](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Santandrix)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2021, 11:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/frozen-stiff/71586/62 "2021-08-28T23:34:55Z")
It is really tier 4 buy in per player to complete stage 12 this week? ---
**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2021, 11:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/frozen-stiff/71586/63 "2021-08-28T23:55:23Z")
> [@Santandrix](#): > > It is really tier 4 buy in per player to complete stage 12 this week? Currently looks like it requires a mix of tier 4 and tier 5 purchases. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/frozen-stiff/71586.md?page=2) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/frozen-stiff/71586.md?page=4)