# Frozen Stiff

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/frozen-stiff/71586>\
**Category:** Official News\
**Created:** [August 22, 2021, 10:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/frozen-stiff/71586 "2021-08-22T22:59:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Saltypatra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/saltypatra/32/59750_2.png) [@Saltypatra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Saltypatra)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2021, 10:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/frozen-stiff/71586/1 "2021-08-22T22:59:53Z")

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Originally published at: [Frozen Stiff – Gems of War](https://gemsofwar.com/frozen-stiff/)  
   
New Ultra-Rare Troop: Frozen Shieldbreaker The Frozen Shieldbreaker will be available this week for 300 Glory in the shop as well as in Event Chests, and will appear in Glory, Gem, and Guild chests in 3-4 weeks’ time. World Event: Melting Point There are 6 battles that players can encounter during the event: Frozen Shieldbreaker,…

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**Author:** ![Fleg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5e9695/32.png) [@Fleg](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fleg)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2021, 11:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/frozen-stiff/71586/2 "2021-08-22T23:08:33Z")

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Wow. Not gunna even try. Waiting for someone else to figure this one out. So much fun this random scoring… 🙄

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**Author:** ![Madd\_Hurricane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/49beb7/32.png) [@Madd\_Hurricane](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Madd_Hurricane)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2021, 11:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/frozen-stiff/71586/3 "2021-08-22T23:23:01Z")

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There will come a point where the strategy is simple: avoid Ice Golem. Until then, it is tricky. Personally, I’ll take Arcturion over Hive Mind & Glaycion over Fallen Valdis as the 1.18x average multiplier isn’t enough to make the variable point battles better than fixed point battles in the two comparisons I listed in this post.

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**Author:** ![MarioDaems](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mariodaems/32/27855_2.png) [@MarioDaems](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MarioDaems)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2021, 11:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/frozen-stiff/71586/4 "2021-08-22T23:40:13Z")

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I tried…

![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/a/e/ae613c9e5bc4bcd53ff68f62de38bfa02fc2824e.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Jonathan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jonathan/32/66724_2.png) [@Jonathan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jonathan)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2021, 11:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/frozen-stiff/71586/5 "2021-08-22T23:55:16Z")

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- Frozen Shieldbreaker \> Ice Golem in Phase 1
- Arcturion \> Hive Mind in Phase 2 (as 1.18 \* 7 = 8.26 expected, which is less than 10)
- Avoid Ice Golem until you can’t in Phase 3, since there’s no more resetting

Agreed that it’s a bit eugh/wtf, though.

I know I won’t be trying too many Vault Keys until I see some blessed soul confirm The Moon’s actually in there, too…

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**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 12:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/frozen-stiff/71586/7 "2021-08-23T00:13:50Z")

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> [@Saltypatra](#):
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> - Frozen Shieldbreaker: 1 Ice Water + 1 Treasure
> - Ice Golem: 1 Ice Water
> - Arcturion: 2 Ice Water
> - Hive Mind: 7 Treasures
> - Glaycion: 4 Ice Water
> - Fallen Valdis: 14 Treasures

```
Ice Golem: 5 points
Frozen Shieldbreaker: 6 points
Hive Mind: 7 x 1.18 = 8.26 points
Arcturion: 10 points
Fallen Valdis: 14 x 1.18 = 16.52 points
Glaycion: 20 points

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What is rarity for lol.

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**Author:** ![ctenn2ls](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ctenn2ls/32/69996_2.png) [@ctenn2ls](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ctenn2ls)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 12:14am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/frozen-stiff/71586/8 "2021-08-23T00:14:28Z")

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Thanks for letting us know the Moon is in the drop table. That’s very helpful.

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**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 12:14am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/frozen-stiff/71586/9 "2021-08-23T00:14:44Z")

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Only if its actually going to be there…!

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**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 12:18am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/frozen-stiff/71586/10 "2021-08-23T00:18:41Z")

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> [@Saltypatra](#):
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> _Scoring_ You can find the following rewards for each of the different battles you may encounter.
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> - Frozen Shieldbreaker: 1 Ice Water + 1 Treasure
> - Ice Golem: 1 Ice Water
> - Arcturion: 2 Ice Water
> - Hive Mind: 7 Treasures
> - Glaycion: 4 Ice Water
> - Fallen Valdis: 14 Treasures
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> Each Ice Water is worth 5 points, and each Treasure is worth 1 point. The battles against Hive Mind and Fallen Valdis will drop a variable number of Treasures (on average about 1.18x the base amount).

@Kafka there seems to be an issue with the game rating. It’s adversited as for anyone above 10 years old. However, in America you don’t learn Algebra until at least age 12 for the most part. (Even then it’s pre-algebra.)

 ![Screenshot_20210822-191430_Google Play Store](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/1/0/10aafa22602be02fb5ac82c17bd620c968d0cb11.jpeg)

Yet, this current week of scoring requires an understanding of Algebra to decode the scoring into points.

So either stop being unnecessary complicated…or overhaul your app store rating. Please and thank you.

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**Author:** ![MarioDaems](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mariodaems/32/27855_2.png) [@MarioDaems](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MarioDaems)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 12:19am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/frozen-stiff/71586/11 "2021-08-23T00:19:44Z")

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The alcohol reference is accurate though.

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**Author:** ![Maisie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8edcca/32.png) [@Maisie](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Maisie)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 3:26am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/frozen-stiff/71586/12 "2021-08-23T03:26:15Z")

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Seconding everyone: this scoring is ridiculously and unnecessarily complicated.

The weekly event was supposed to be fun! he release notes suggested there might be lots of new twists! but what we have ended up with is a dull grind through whatever permutation of scoring rules the RNG spat out this week.

This mode badly needs rework.

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**Author:** ![Maisie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8edcca/32.png) [@Maisie](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Maisie)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 3:28am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/frozen-stiff/71586/13 "2021-08-23T03:28:40Z")

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And the complicated scoring rules are NOT VISIBLE IN-GAME; you keep saying nope, can’t-fix, too-difficult but this really is a problem. It should not be up to guildmasters to explain this to players for you.

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**Author:** ![mitamata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mitamata/32/10313_2.png) [@mitamata](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mitamata)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 4:52am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/frozen-stiff/71586/14 "2021-08-23T04:52:18Z")

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![Screen Shot 2021-08-22 at 9.51.37 PM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/4/0/4024cd7443fe7f101b70b5bb1093a63024067ebc.png)

![giphy (6)](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/c/0/c030e9062b2013aa9b11d85a7a0a86d0fe729e0b.gif)

WHYYYYYY!?

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**Author:** ![igniteice](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/igniteice/32/67904_2.png) [@igniteice](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/igniteice)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 5:20am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/frozen-stiff/71586/15 "2021-08-23T05:20:13Z")

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I think the scoring is trying to prevent stuff like this…

 ![Screenshot_20210822-233510](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/8/7/8758d23ff6541b99b0ac14d499fb6c51b436c1f4.jpeg)

They want to try to throw off players from having the same scores by reducing how many players understand the scoring system.

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**Author:** ![Snooj](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/snooj/32/65852_2.png) [@Snooj](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Snooj)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 5:28am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/frozen-stiff/71586/16 "2021-08-23T05:28:05Z")

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> [@mitamata](#):
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> WHYYYYYY!?

Because scoring needs to be exciting!!!nnn!nnn!!n

Clearly we need a mnemonic. Thats new right?! Stealing your picture…

![Screen Shot 2021-08-22 at 9.51.37 PM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/4/0/4024cd7443fe7f101b70b5bb1093a63024067ebc.png)

Greasy furry aquaman hates floating iguanas.

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**Author:** ![Arelana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/arelana/32/16081_2.png) [@Arelana](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Arelana)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 7:10am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/frozen-stiff/71586/17 "2021-08-23T07:10:43Z")

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What the actual hell with the scoring this week?

People say repeatedly that random scoring and illogical points values are not fun, so did the Devs take it as a challenge to make it as un-fun as possible?

Seriously, what gives? Are you guys that desperate for extra Tier purchases from confused players who can’t be arsed to figure out the scoring that you already refuse to list in-game?

> [@Snooj](#):
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> Greasy furry aquaman hates floating iguanas.

Greedy Fecking Accountants Hunger For Income

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**Author:** ![AMT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/amt/32/56829_2.png) [@AMT](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/AMT)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 7:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/frozen-stiff/71586/18 "2021-08-23T07:16:55Z")

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Surely this week’s scoring system is yet another incentive for potential new Beta Testers, since #GoWListens  
😅 🤦‍♂️ 🖖

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**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 8:09am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/frozen-stiff/71586/19 "2021-08-23T08:09:07Z")

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> [@igniteice](#):
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> They want to try to throw off players from having the same scores by reducing how many players understand the scoring system.

All they need to do to prevent tiebreakers is to have one thing with variable scoring. It isn’t. That. Hard.

Added bonus, we can have that one thing and have it _not_ be super weird to read.

IT ISN’T THAT HARD.

But no, they want the scoring system to look like this!

![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/1/d/1df7b119ab37ffe62b671393cab1570a973f8561.jpeg)

That’s us stuck in there. Not trying to figure it out, that’s been tried too many times, now we’re trying to get out and it won’t let us.

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**Author:** ![sls](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sls/32/66687_2.png) [@sls](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/sls)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 10:32am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/frozen-stiff/71586/20 "2021-08-23T10:32:43Z")

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I’d imagine anyone who wants to go for a tie reads up on the scoring rules anyway. So what even is the point behind this convoluted mess?

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**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 11:12am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/frozen-stiff/71586/21 "2021-08-23T11:12:56Z")

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> [@Snooj](#):
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> Greasy furry aquaman hates floating iguanas.

Game Fails At Having Formulas Included.

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