# For Great Science!

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/for-great-science/12592>\
**Category:** Official News\
**Created:** [September 18, 2016, 11:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/for-great-science/12592 "2016-09-18T23:00:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 3:17am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/for-great-science/12592/42 "2016-09-19T03:17:00Z")

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> [@Sirrian](#):
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> **Carnex:** His Armor gain has been increased from +3 to +8  
> **Tankbot:** Has had his Fast trait removed, and Reinforced now moves down to second place, with Stoneskin added in 3rd place for some extra Tankiness.

“Small” he says.

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Are we getting any previous troops hitting chests this week?

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**Author:** ![ZooKeeper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zookeeper/32/30875_2.png) [@ZooKeeper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ZooKeeper)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 3:27am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/for-great-science/12592/43 "2016-09-19T03:27:52Z")

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Thanks. Yours sounds nicer. I like it.

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**Author:** ![Mitheithel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mitheithel/32/2352_2.png) [@Mitheithel](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mitheithel)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 3:43am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/for-great-science/12592/44 "2016-09-19T03:43:06Z")

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I can die happy now, all my Adana dreams have come true… Except that I can always use more robots!

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**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 3:54am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/for-great-science/12592/45 "2016-09-19T03:54:20Z")

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> [@Sirrian](#):
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> > [@TaliaParks](#):
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> > DRACOS 1337, as in DRACOS “LEET” (elite)?  
> > Who’s pre-teen child got to name this Troop?
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> Hey, don’t blame US… Sparkgrinder named him! 😛  
> We can’t be held responsible for the juvenile sense of humor possessed by the Tinker Dwarves of Adana

Well screw Sparkgrinder than, can I get a refund on him? He has to pay!

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**Author:** ![Personette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/personette/32/3845_2.png) [@Personette](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Personette)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 4:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/for-great-science/12592/46 "2016-09-19T04:00:41Z")

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So am I getting this straight?

Out of control murder bots: cool.

The modern equivalent of pig-latin: unacceptable

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**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 4:01am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/for-great-science/12592/47 "2016-09-19T04:01:42Z")

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> [@Personette](#):
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> So am I getting this straight?

Yes. 10 chars.

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**Author:** ![Personette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/personette/32/3845_2.png) [@Personette](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Personette)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 4:02am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/for-great-science/12592/48 "2016-09-19T04:02:19Z")

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I feel like your priorities might be a little off. Just a teensy tiny bit off.

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**Author:** ![Sirrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sirrian/32/35758_2.png) [@Sirrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sirrian)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 4:06am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/for-great-science/12592/49 "2016-09-19T04:06:12Z")

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> [@TaliaParks](#):
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> Well screw Sparkgrinder than, can I get a refund on him? He has to pay!

As soon as we locate him in the server room, I promise we’ll shave “That wasn’t funny” into his back hair

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**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 4:07am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/for-great-science/12592/50 "2016-09-19T04:07:15Z")

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Great, because a crazy dwarf’s back hair was an image I desperately needed.

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**Author:** ![Sirrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sirrian/32/35758_2.png) [@Sirrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sirrian)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 4:09am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/for-great-science/12592/51 "2016-09-19T04:09:42Z")

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Sorry, I was eating capellini for lunch, and it was the first thing that came to mind… 😱

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**Author:** ![Personette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/personette/32/3845_2.png) [@Personette](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Personette)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 4:10am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/for-great-science/12592/52 "2016-09-19T04:10:02Z")

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This just made that image so much worse.

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**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 4:20am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/for-great-science/12592/53 "2016-09-19T04:20:04Z")

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> [@Personette](#):
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> The modern equivalent of pig-latin

Using numbers in place of letters is the modern equivalent of pig-latin?

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**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 4:20am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/for-great-science/12592/54 "2016-09-19T04:20:42Z")

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> [@Sirrian](#):
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> > [@TaliaParks](#):
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> > Well screw Sparkgrinder than, can I get a refund on him? He has to pay!
> 
> As soon as we locate him in the server room, I promise we’ll shave “That wasn’t funny” into his back hair

If you mail it to me then we are even 😉

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**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 4:29am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/for-great-science/12592/55 "2016-09-19T04:29:22Z")

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Sure – it’s mildly-obfuscated language that anyone with half a brain can decode, and ten-year-olds find it amusing. Seems like a decent enough analogy to me.

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**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 4:40am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/for-great-science/12592/56 "2016-09-19T04:40:02Z")

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> [@Lyya](#):
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> Sure – it’s mildly-obfuscated language that anyone with half a brain can decode, and ten-year-olds find it amusing. Seems like a decent enough analogy to me.

Pig-latin is just a language game with variations all over the world, such as the German “Mattenenglisch” or the French “Loucherbem”.

Replacing letters with numbers is simply an alternative alphabet, otherwise known as “Leetspeak”.

The biggest culprit in Leetspeak is 1337 itself, an epitome of a meme. I guess @Sirrian wasn’t joking when he said he likes memes 😆

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**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 4:46am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/for-great-science/12592/57 "2016-09-19T04:46:01Z")

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The data files were just updated. Some changes:

- [Bombot](http://ashtender.com/gems/troops/bombot)’s spell now scales with Armor only, and not Magic, and reads:  
Explode 2 random Gems. Deal 5 damage to all enemies, boosted by my Armor and destroy myself. [2:1]  
(I think this is incorrect, and should be scaling off 1/2 Magic as Sirrian indicated above.)

- [Carnex](http://ashtender.com/gems/troops/carnex)’s spell has been updated:  
Explode [Magic + 2] random Skulls. Gain 8 Armor.

- [Tankbot 2000](http://ashtender.com/gems/troops/tankbot-2000)’s traits have changed (lost Fast, gained Stoneskin).

- [The Dragon Soul](http://ashtender.com/gems/troops/the-dragon-soul)’s third trait, Possession, has been temporarily changed to:  
25% chance to resurrect after death.

- [Desdaemona](http://ashtender.com/gems/troops/desdaemona) now has unique selection and spell-cast sound effects! (Thanks guys 😃 )

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**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 4:51am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/for-great-science/12592/58 "2016-09-19T04:51:33Z")

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> [@Lyya](#):
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> - [Bombot](http://ashtender.com/gems/troops/bombot)’s spell now scales with Armor only, and not Magic, and reads:  
> Explode 2 random Gems. Deal 5 damage to all enemies, boosted by my Armor and destroy myself. [2:1]  
> (I’m not entirely sure why he still gains Magic on leveling, but that description makes it seem useless.)

There are other Troops that have unused Magic, no big deal.

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**Author:** ![Personette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/personette/32/3845_2.png) [@Personette](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Personette)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 4:51am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/for-great-science/12592/59 "2016-09-19T04:51:49Z")

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I was thinking pretty much exactly what @lyya said–it’s a code that feels secret/inducts you into some sort of special club, but actually everyone knows it. I mean, if _I_ know any of it, everyone does.

But yes, @TaliaParks, there are indeed some technical differences between Pig Latin and Leetspeak.

OTOH, what on earth is Loucherbem? The most equivalent French slang I know is “Verlan” (which is pretty close to Pig Latin–‘verlan’ is just ‘invers’ (inverse) with one syllable moved to the back.)

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**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 4:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/for-great-science/12592/60 "2016-09-19T04:53:09Z")

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Are there?

Anyway, data-diving leads me to believe that Bombot’s spell does indeed scale with 1/2 Magic now, as @Sirrian mentioned, but the text was incorrectly changed to a hardcoded scale factor. If I were a betting girl, I’d bet on: “[3 + (Magic / 2)] damage”. Would need a dev to confirm, of course.

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**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 4:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/for-great-science/12592/61 "2016-09-19T04:59:28Z")

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> [@Personette](#):
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> I was thinking pretty much exactly what @lyya said–it’s a code that feels secret/inducts you into some sort of special club, but actually everyone knows it. I mean, if _I_ know any of it, everyone does.
> 
> But yes, @TaliaParks, there are indeed some technical differences between Pig Latin and Leetspeak.
> 
> OTOH, what on earth is Loucherbem? The most equivalent French slang I know is “Verlan” (which is pretty close to Pig Latin–‘verlan’ is just ‘invers’ (inverse) with one syllable moved to the back.)

I just want to say I was ribbing the Devs a bit, it’s what I do.

Loucherbem is pretty much the same as pig-latin, taking a consonant cluster, moving it to the end of a word and replacing it with an “L”, then adding a suffix.

Fou (crazy) becomes loufoque, combien (how much) becomes lombienques, etc.

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