# For Great Science! **URL:** \ **Category:** Official News\ **Created:** [September 18, 2016, 11:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/for-great-science/12592 "2016-09-18T23:00:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 12:37am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/for-great-science/12592/22 "2016-09-19T00:37:36Z")
> [@Mitheithel](#): > > Tankbot 2000’s Fast trait is redundant with the Mechanist’s third trait - which makes it useless and a waste of traitstones. If it stacked, even just to give it 75% mana instead of 50%, it would feel kind of lame (to be fair it would put it on par with a lot of traits) but at least not useless. What if you don’t have Mechanist’s 3rd Trait or don’t even use Mechanist at all? ---
**Author:** ![Zelfore](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zelfore/32/22295_2.png) [@Zelfore](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zelfore)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 12:39am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/for-great-science/12592/23 "2016-09-19T00:39:42Z")
> [@Algo](#): > > I just love knowing what I’m not gonna get from my event keys this week lol Oh. You’ll get a legendary in the event chest, but it’ll be Carnex. #icry ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 12:42am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/for-great-science/12592/24 "2016-09-19T00:42:13Z")
With these new Events where the Legendary is just put into chests, which Legendary is in the shop for purchase? ---
**Author:** ![death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@death](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/death)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 12:45am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/for-great-science/12592/25 "2016-09-19T00:45:50Z")
The new legendary @TaliaParks ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 12:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/for-great-science/12592/26 "2016-09-19T00:47:47Z")
> [@death](#): > > The new legendary @TaliaParks Why am I not surprised? 😆 ---
**Author:** ![Algo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/algo/32/10648_2.png) [@Algo](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Algo)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 12:48am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/for-great-science/12592/27 "2016-09-19T00:48:22Z")
@Zelfore How right you are _sob_ ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 12:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/for-great-science/12592/28 "2016-09-19T00:59:05Z")
New troops, in ascending order of rarity: > **[Bombot - Troops - Gems of War Database](https://gowdb.com/troops/6251)** > > Kaboom! (10 Brown): Explode 2 random Gems. Deal \[(Magic / 2) + 3\] damage to all enemies, boosted by my Armor and destroy myself. \[2:1\] > **[Royal Engineer - Troops - Gems of War Database](https://gowdb.com/troops/6250)** > > Gear Lock (13 Blue/Brown): Give \[Magic + 5\] Armor to all Allies. Summon either: a Bombot, OR Flame Cannon, OR Tankbot 2000. > **[DRACOS 1337 - Troops - Gems of War Database](https://gowdb.com/troops/6252)** > > Disintegrate (15 Yellow/Purple): Silence, Stun, and drain \[Magic + 1\] Mana from an enemy, with a 25% chance to destroy them. ---
**Author:** ![Tacet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tacet/32/35_2.png) [@Tacet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tacet)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 1:02am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/for-great-science/12592/29 "2016-09-19T01:02:05Z")
> [@Lyya](#): > > [Bombot - Troops - Gems of War Database](http://ashtender.com/gems/troops/bombot) 1:2 ratio? That sounds very high. 2 Bombots is nearly a full team wipe. ---
**Author:** ![Mithran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mithran/32/18064_2.png) [@Mithran](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mithran)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 1:03am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/for-great-science/12592/30 "2016-09-19T01:03:17Z")
> [@DonBoba](#): > > Did you notice the part where he steals 12 mana, not just drain. Now you just need another gem match to cast him again. And again. I did not see that. Text shows as “drain” for me. If it does actually steal, it would be borderline OP, since the drain appears to scale with magic. ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 1:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/for-great-science/12592/31 "2016-09-19T01:16:24Z")
Natural max Magic is 4+8=12, for natural max base spell damage of 12+2=14. Natural max Armor is 24+20=44, for natural boost of 44/2=22. So natural max boosted spell damage is 36 per troop, or 144 total damage if no troop is under 36 EHP. Yeah, that’ll hurt. ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 1:23am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/for-great-science/12592/32 "2016-09-19T01:23:28Z")
Looks like there’s a difference in the text I have for DRACOS. I’ll amend it when I can, later tonight; I think I missed a drop. ---
**Author:** ![Rasper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/rasper/32/2363_2.png) [@Rasper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rasper)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 1:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/for-great-science/12592/33 "2016-09-19T01:24:43Z")
> [@Lyya](#): > > Natural max Magic is 4+8=12, for natural max base spell damage of 12+2=14. > Natural max Armor is 24+20=44, for natural boost of 44/2=22. > So natural max boosted spell damage is 36 per troop. Yeah, that’ll hurt. Now add in guild bonus to magic (+2) and armor (+4 x2 = +8, at 2:1 = +4) to make it 42 each. Mech hero for Fast Mechanist\*\*\* Golden Cog Bombot Bombot Soothsayer Fire soothsayer to hit as many browns as you can on turn 1, gives +1 magic to bombots. Explode bot for 43 AE. Risky, but could be very very fast. Soothsayer +1 brown on match helps too. ---
**Author:** ![agentronin316](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/agentronin316/32/9921_2.png) [@agentronin316](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/agentronin316)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 1:27am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/for-great-science/12592/34 "2016-09-19T01:27:10Z")
What about Honor or Devoted? ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 1:27am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/for-great-science/12592/35 "2016-09-19T01:27:29Z")
That’s all assuming things haven’t been tweaked since my pull; I’ll need to double-check all the numbers. ---
**Author:** ![Mekkalyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mekkalyn/32/21868_2.png) [@Mekkalyn](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mekkalyn)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 1:35am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/for-great-science/12592/36 "2016-09-19T01:35:58Z")
The card I see on the first post says drain. Perhaps I am missing something ? ---
**Author:** ![ZooKeeper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zookeeper/32/30875_2.png) [@ZooKeeper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ZooKeeper)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 2:21am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/for-great-science/12592/37 "2016-09-19T02:21:48Z")
I won’t be surprised if they release troops then nerf/buff it later. It has become a tradition. ---
**Author:** ![Namour](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/namour/32/2957_2.png) [@Namour](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Namour)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 2:41am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/for-great-science/12592/38 "2016-09-19T02:41:35Z")
3 x Bombot & Hero Mechanist Class (fast) may become the go-to Explore Team. ---
**Author:** ![Drathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drathas/32/7344_2.png) [@Drathas](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Drathas)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 2:46am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/for-great-science/12592/39 "2016-09-19T02:46:51Z")
It only drains mana, you should read the spell text again. ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 3:09am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/for-great-science/12592/40 "2016-09-19T03:09:43Z")
> [@ZooKeeper](#): > > I won’t be surprised if they _do the best they can to release new features with appropriate tuning, but can’t foresee every possible outcome,_ then nerf/buff it later _instead of leaving the game hopelessly broken, just like any other responsible company would._ It has become a tradition _and I’m glad of it, because otherwise people would leave en masse._ Fixed that for you. ---
**Author:** ![Sirrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sirrian/32/35758_2.png) [@Sirrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sirrian)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2016, 3:15am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/for-great-science/12592/41 "2016-09-19T03:15:52Z")
btw - I’ve just been fixing a wordpress caching issue. The image displaying for Bombot is incorrect & not using the latest data… his AoE damage actually scales of half magic (not full magic) ALSO Good news @Tacet there is a small ninja buff going out to Carnex & Tankbot which got left off of today’s blog post! - **Carnex:** His Armor gain has been increased from +3 to +8 - **Tankbot:** Has had his Fast trait removed, and Reinforced now moves down to second place, with Stoneskin added in 3rd place for some extra Tankiness. We’d actually like a bit of rework on these 2 guys, and while this buff won’t bring either into the late game meta, it should make them more relevant for early-to-mid game players. > [@TaliaParks](#): > > DRACOS 1337, as in DRACOS “LEET” (elite)? > Who’s pre-teen child got to name this Troop? Hey, don’t blame US… Sparkgrinder named him! 😛 We can’t be held responsible for the juvenile sense of humor possessed by the Tinker Dwarves of Adana [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/for-great-science/12592.md?page=1) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/for-great-science/12592.md?page=3)