# (Fixed in 4.2) Player owned Zuul'Goth casting more than once

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fixed-in-4-2-player-owned-zuulgoth-casting-more-than-once/48084>\
**Category:** Bug Reports\
**Created:** [October 29, 2018, 6:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fixed-in-4-2-player-owned-zuulgoth-casting-more-than-once/48084 "2018-10-29T18:14:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![AlphaNate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/alphanate/32/44933_2.png) [@AlphaNate](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/AlphaNate)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2018, 6:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fixed-in-4-2-player-owned-zuulgoth-casting-more-than-once/48084/1 "2018-10-29T18:14:26Z")

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**Platform, device version and operating system:**  
Xbox

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**What you were expecting to happen, and what actually happened:**  
I was expecting Zuul’Goth to be blocked from casting more than once, since that’s what the card says. He cast once, then started filling up his mana, and ended up casting again. Both times, the effects happened, and my troops died.

**How often does this happen? When did it begin happening?**  
It was in PVP. I’ve never seen an player-owned Zuul’Goth cast before today, so I don’t know if it always happens. I did reposition Zuul’Goth from third slot to first slot using Cedric. I don’t know if that had any effect, as I’d already moved him when I noticed he was collecting mana again.

**Steps to make it happen again**  
As stated before. If it doesn’t happen immediately, he may need to be repositioned into another slot.

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**Author:** ![Smithy373](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Smithy373](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Smithy373)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2018, 6:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fixed-in-4-2-player-owned-zuulgoth-casting-more-than-once/48084/2 "2018-10-29T18:27:52Z")

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This happened to a fellow guild member last week in guild wars, don’t think he repositioned Zuul tho. Cast twice during the match

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**Author:** ![jzg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jzg/32/53451_2.png) [@jzg](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/jzg)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2018, 6:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fixed-in-4-2-player-owned-zuulgoth-casting-more-than-once/48084/3 "2018-10-29T18:56:14Z")

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I can confirm that it can be casted multiple times, just tried it

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**Author:** ![Lissandra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lissandra/32/42131_2.png) [@Lissandra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lissandra)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2018, 6:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fixed-in-4-2-player-owned-zuulgoth-casting-more-than-once/48084/4 "2018-10-29T18:56:29Z")

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Honestly, I wouldn’t mind if Zuul had that restriction gone considering the amount of time needed to craft him… Same with removing his Imprevious for Invulnerable. Would make him much more viable

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**Author:** ![MrRodster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@MrRodster](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MrRodster)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2018, 7:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fixed-in-4-2-player-owned-zuulgoth-casting-more-than-once/48084/5 "2018-10-29T19:06:58Z")

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ZG is a real garbage troop if it can only cast once. It’s a poor reward for the amount of effort it takes to get it.

Allowing it to cast more than once transforms it from garbage to decent, but certainly not OP. The function should be left as it is now and the text should be changed.

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**Author:** ![UKresistance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ukresistance/32/7558_2.png) [@UKresistance](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/UKresistance)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2018, 7:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fixed-in-4-2-player-owned-zuulgoth-casting-more-than-once/48084/6 "2018-10-29T19:18:42Z")

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@TheIdleOne @Fleg

You guys ever see your Zuul fire twice?

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**Author:** ![MrRodster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@MrRodster](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MrRodster)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2018, 7:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fixed-in-4-2-player-owned-zuulgoth-casting-more-than-once/48084/7 "2018-10-29T19:24:06Z")

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Mine does, and theirs do too when I practice against them.

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**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2018, 7:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fixed-in-4-2-player-owned-zuulgoth-casting-more-than-once/48084/8 "2018-10-29T19:34:17Z")

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Only after the update. If Scorpius can get the one shot cast removed for a double kill at 28 mana, then the world’s largest paperweight that takes a lot of effort to receive (or a lot of waiting and luck) should also have its restriction removed at 32 mana.

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**Author:** ![jzg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jzg/32/53451_2.png) [@jzg](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/jzg)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2018, 7:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fixed-in-4-2-player-owned-zuulgoth-casting-more-than-once/48084/9 "2018-10-29T19:43:26Z")

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here you go

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/6/c/6cffcbfc1078aa0f1c7609d5bdc349e63e3572e7.jpeg "Zuul Goth glitch / buff?") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4AeM0yZzbA)

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**Author:** ![Elarcadia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/77aa72/32.png) [@Elarcadia](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Elarcadia)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 7:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fixed-in-4-2-player-owned-zuulgoth-casting-more-than-once/48084/10 "2018-10-30T19:27:43Z")

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They could make it where Zuul has a 100% chance to kill a troop on his first chance, and then it drops to 50% for the second turn. 40% for the next. 30% for the next…and so on.

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**Author:** ![Cyrup](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/cyrup/32/50181_2.png) [@Cyrup](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Cyrup)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 11:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fixed-in-4-2-player-owned-zuulgoth-casting-more-than-once/48084/11 "2018-10-30T23:36:28Z")

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This is a [known issue](https://gemsofwar.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360000497716-All-Known-Issues-Gems-of-War), thanks for your report. The team have fixed this for the next update, 4.2

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**Author:** ![MentalcaseAd666](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mentalcasead666/32/43536_2.png) [@MentalcaseAd666](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MentalcaseAd666)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2018, 12:17am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fixed-in-4-2-player-owned-zuulgoth-casting-more-than-once/48084/12 "2018-10-31T00:17:17Z")

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Remove the ‘Boss’ type from the craftable Zuul and remove once only cast like Scorpius which will make the crazy grind actually worth trying to obtain this troop. After all, it will be the strongest troop in the game and for 32 mana and 45 years of grinding I’d expect nothing less 😉

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**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2018, 12:18am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fixed-in-4-2-player-owned-zuulgoth-casting-more-than-once/48084/13 "2018-10-31T00:18:48Z")

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Plz buff him so hes more than a collection treasure. Hes so expensive to craft. 🙋

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**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2018, 5:40am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fixed-in-4-2-player-owned-zuulgoth-casting-more-than-once/48084/14 "2018-10-31T05:40:03Z")

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…and he looks like a boss(champ) 💪

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**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2018, 12:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fixed-in-4-2-player-owned-zuulgoth-casting-more-than-once/48084/15 "2018-10-31T12:08:12Z")

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> [@Eika](#):
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> Plz buff him so hes more than a collection treasure. Hes so expensive to craft. 🙋‍♀️

I can’t imagine the amount of hate the devs would receive if Zuul were ever buffed to anything better than a collection treasure. Players repeatedly meeting a killer meta team they could only hope to copy after playing another two years are unlikely to express a lot of gratitude.

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**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2018, 12:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fixed-in-4-2-player-owned-zuulgoth-casting-more-than-once/48084/16 "2018-10-31T12:12:28Z")

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Who mentioned that they should not had buffed him so he do be the best troop in the game, except from you?

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**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2018, 12:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fixed-in-4-2-player-owned-zuulgoth-casting-more-than-once/48084/17 "2018-10-31T12:16:12Z")

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> [@Eika](#):
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> Who said that they should buffed him so he do be the best troop in the game, except from you?

Which part of “anything better than a collection treasure” made you misread my post to such an extent?

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**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2018, 12:20pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fixed-in-4-2-player-owned-zuulgoth-casting-more-than-once/48084/18 "2018-10-31T12:20:23Z")

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Of course you had to quote the sentence before I was finished with it.  
What I meant was, that nobody said that they should buff him so he do be the best troop in the game.  
You mentioning a killer meta with him in, which players might wait 2 years for using themselves.  
Nobody asked for a “best troop” in the game buff.

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**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2018, 12:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fixed-in-4-2-player-owned-zuulgoth-casting-more-than-once/48084/19 "2018-10-31T12:32:05Z")

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> [@Eika](#):
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> Of course you had to quote the sentence before I was finished with it.

If you post something, you are finished with it. Just because this forum allows you to edit post multiple times after posting doesn’t mean that people will wait half a day prior to replying to you.

> [@Eika](#):
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> Nobody asked for a “best troop” in the game buff.

Somebody asked for a “more than collection treasure” buff, which directly translates to “powerful enough to compete with the best meta teams”. Unless, of course, I totally misunderstand your request and you were just petitioning for an extra armor point.

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**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2018, 12:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fixed-in-4-2-player-owned-zuulgoth-casting-more-than-once/48084/20 "2018-10-31T12:33:16Z")

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Come back and talk to me whenever you have proper manners, which you hopefully will get someday. Your replies is filled with disrespect all over them.

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