# Fix the Console AI new people dropping like flies
**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fix-the-console-ai-new-people-dropping-like-flies/28220
**Category:** Support
**Created:** [August 2, 2017, 10:58am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fix-the-console-ai-new-people-dropping-like-flies/28220 "2017-08-02T10:58:00Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@MrsAffects](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MrsAffects)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2017, 1:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fix-the-console-ai-new-people-dropping-like-flies/28220/41 "2017-08-08T13:58:16Z")
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### Author:  [@CCafe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/CCafe)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2017, 2:48pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fix-the-console-ai-new-people-dropping-like-flies/28220/42 "2017-08-08T14:48:04Z")
> [@Saltypatra](#):
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> Unfortunately a simple change could have been implemented for this issue. We don’t want to treat the symptom, we want to treat the cause, which takes longer both to isolate and to solve.
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> Platform uniformity has regrettably taken longer than anticipated due to unforeseen circumstances, but we are actively working on getting console and PC/Mobile in line. This is why we are starting to have more synced events, as console are very nearly caught up to PC/Mobile. Console will also be getting Urskaya with the next update as well as keeping their accelerated mythic schedule until they are in line.
Why is it I feel like you guys are kinda pulling one from the pages of the US Congress. All their bills start out simple but by the time every damn congress person gets done touching it the bill is now 1000 pages long and there is so much stuff that has nothing to do with the problem.
You say how long it takes for Sony and Microsoft to test but honestly if it was a small underlying change how long does it really take? Because there are a lot of other developers that also talk about the patching process and a lot of them are saying M$ takes a few hours and Sony can take a half a day to up to 5 days to pass a certification.
Every time you guys talk about certification you make it sound like it takes weeks, so how much patching are you doing vs underlying changes?
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### Author:  [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2017, 2:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fix-the-console-ai-new-people-dropping-like-flies/28220/43 "2017-08-08T14:51:36Z")
> [@CCafe](#):
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> Because there are a lot of other developers that also talk about the patching process and a lot of them are saying M$ takes a few hours and Sony can take a half a day to up to 5 days to pass a certification
Really? Because there was a huge update for MC that took 6 weeks to clear certs so there are many contributing factors…
Stop crying and be patient
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### Author:  [@CCafe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/CCafe)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2017, 2:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fix-the-console-ai-new-people-dropping-like-flies/28220/44 "2017-08-08T14:54:13Z")
> [@Vangor](#):
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> > [@CCafe](#):
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> > Because there are a lot of other developers that also talk about the patching process and a lot of them are saying M$ takes a few hours and Sony can take a half a day to up to 5 days to pass a certification
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> Really? Because there was a huge update for MC that took 6 weeks to clear certs so there are many contributing factors…
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> Stop crying and be patient
Exactly you said “huge” this isn’t a huge update. Hell this should be a minor a tweak and an easy push. The question is are they trying to push a HUGE update at the same time while we continue to suffer under the yoke of an over aggressive AI.
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### Author:  [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2017, 2:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fix-the-console-ai-new-people-dropping-like-flies/28220/45 "2017-08-08T14:56:03Z")
> [@CCafe](#):
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> suffer under the yoke of an over aggressive AI.
Over aggressive ai? What are you even talking about? Pfft…
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### Author:  [@CCafe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/CCafe)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2017, 2:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fix-the-console-ai-new-people-dropping-like-flies/28220/46 "2017-08-08T14:58:53Z")
Quit bull shitting me. You know damn well what I’m talking about. I’m pretty positive you’ve already watched the last video of the AI being a liittle over zealous running a Mab team and just decimating his team.
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### Author:  [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2017, 3:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fix-the-console-ai-new-people-dropping-like-flies/28220/47 "2017-08-08T15:04:43Z")
Please keep tje language family friendly
And in response… If i use the justice league i can do the same thing to the ai so how is that an ai problem? Wouldnt it be a mechanical problem? And hasnt that been addressed by @Saltypatra saying “the fix is in the works”?
Yes. Yes. And yes.
So chill out and quit crying about everything! I have never seen a positive post from you pimpin
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### Author:  [@CCafe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/CCafe)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2017, 3:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fix-the-console-ai-new-people-dropping-like-flies/28220/48 "2017-08-08T15:05:36Z")
> [@Strat](#):
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> Witness the beatdown at the hands of Justice League:
> [Justice League on Vimeo](https://vimeo.com/228729789)
This is what new people see, I’ve already lost 7 people out of my guild. They’ve quit because what should have been a simple fix has dragged on for months. It sucks when I get a PSN message stating I’ve already uninstalled Gems goodbye have a good life.
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### Author:  [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2017, 3:07pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fix-the-console-ai-new-people-dropping-like-flies/28220/49 "2017-08-08T15:07:46Z")
Whatever… Keep crying then… Oh poor you! Im out
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### Author:  [@CCafe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/CCafe)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2017, 3:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fix-the-console-ai-new-people-dropping-like-flies/28220/50 "2017-08-08T15:10:01Z")
I’m not crying I’m pissed off with a game I’ve made a lot of purchases to and have supported it for over a year and have told people to help support this game yet when something like this comes around and should have been a quick fix it just drags out for months.
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### Author:  [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2017, 3:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fix-the-console-ai-new-people-dropping-like-flies/28220/51 "2017-08-08T15:26:24Z")
> [@Vangor](#):
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> And hasnt that been addressed by Saltypatra saying “the fix is in the works”?
That’s not entirely accurate. At no point has she ever once clearly and explicitly written anything like that. They “hope” the changes “should affect” the “likelihood” of cascades. Big difference.
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### Author:  [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2017, 3:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fix-the-console-ai-new-people-dropping-like-flies/28220/52 "2017-08-08T15:33:34Z")
> [@Strat](#):
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> That’s not entirely accurate. At no point has she ever once clearly and explicitly written anything like that. They “hope” the changes “should affect” the “likelihood” of cascades. Big difference
I disagree… Those are cya terms used by anyone in PR… Its standard practice. Im just saying why not take a wait and see approach?
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### Author:  [@CCafe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/CCafe)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2017, 3:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fix-the-console-ai-new-people-dropping-like-flies/28220/53 "2017-08-08T15:42:03Z")
I believe George Carlin said it the best about political language which for the most part also covers general PR practices.
[George Carlin on Political Language](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEeDRUZIDq8)
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### Author:  [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2017, 3:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fix-the-console-ai-new-people-dropping-like-flies/28220/54 "2017-08-08T15:43:01Z")
I am well aware of what GC said… Doesnt make him right as much as i love him
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### Author:  [@happy](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/happy)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2017, 4:07pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fix-the-console-ai-new-people-dropping-like-flies/28220/55 "2017-08-08T16:07:11Z")
‘Unfortunately a simple change could have been implemented for this issue. We don’t want to treat the symptom, we want to treat the cause, which takes longer both to isolate and to solve.’
It never had to be one or the other - normally system procedure emergency fix whilst fixing the underlying problem, in other words both.
It was left until later because it wasn’t considered necessary then, and hey we can just wait on console till you decide its convenient.
I remember a lot of talk about kingdom releases being synced, but even after platform alignment we are still behind again on those - how long is it now a month ? To be credible you need to at least sometimes deliver, sadly that has not happened.
And the fixed cpu exploders now unfixed again for full famine and other troops, its more than dissapointing.
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### Author:  [@CCafe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/CCafe)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2017, 4:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fix-the-console-ai-new-people-dropping-like-flies/28220/56 "2017-08-08T16:18:34Z")
Well I’ve lost 4 PvP matches in a row right before writing this last reply. I’m now fed up too. I’ve had enough. Salty tell your bosses if they want more money from me to get the ball rolling and fix the damn AI otherwise I’ll take my $600 a year investment that I used to give freely and move on to another game developer that will actually listen to their people.
Between this and GW’s tweaks its blatently obvious that you guys had no real intentions to fix anything. 800 comments about GW’s not once did I see anyone suggest the improvements that you guys made. I personally think you guys made that thread as a smoke and mirror appeasement.
I’m not quiting Gems, however I’m going to scale back how much I play this game. I’m the guild master of Fubar Snafu on PS4 so I have prior commitments that I must continue to follow through with in maintaining the guild but other that I think I’m done too.
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### Author:  [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2017, 4:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fix-the-console-ai-new-people-dropping-like-flies/28220/57 "2017-08-08T16:21:15Z")
The GL position can be passed on to someone else… Jus’ sayin’
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### Author:  [@Sidousai](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sidousai)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2017, 4:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fix-the-console-ai-new-people-dropping-like-flies/28220/58 "2017-08-08T16:26:48Z")
Were they playing on “Hard” difficulty?
I mean, this wouldn’t be the first game where setting “Hard” difficulty means cheating AI…
Surprise. Surprise?
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### Author:  [@happy](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/happy)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2017, 4:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fix-the-console-ai-new-people-dropping-like-flies/28220/59 "2017-08-08T16:43:12Z")
Is Mockery negativity - the irony of these posts.
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### Author:  [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2017, 4:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fix-the-console-ai-new-people-dropping-like-flies/28220/60 "2017-08-08T16:45:35Z")
Negativity begets negativity. Surly you know this.
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