# Fire Bomb Defense Teams Posting Odd Wins

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fire-bomb-defense-teams-posting-odd-wins/43498>\
**Category:** Support\
**Created:** [August 3, 2018, 2:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fire-bomb-defense-teams-posting-odd-wins/43498 "2018-08-03T02:13:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![Fiara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fiara/32/41273_2.png) [@Fiara](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fiara)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 2:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fire-bomb-defense-teams-posting-odd-wins/43498/1 "2018-08-03T02:13:17Z")

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**What you were expecting to happen, and what actually happened?**

My guild members who use Fire Bomb defense teams has been posting some very high win rates (more than losses) and it seems somehow the game was generating artificial wins.

**Case 1**  
As i promote inter-guild bashing of members we frequently post wins and losses against other members for fun.  
One of our member’s Panda posted the following today.

 ![55](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/5/e/5eb8aa7e84506ed263e88023f889d71fd3b5b71e.jpg)

However our other member Raz-0 had not played the game since the night before.

 ![13](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/b/3/b355d69b0b67f08d8f86aa8216fad023b0e3fd28.png)

**Case 2**  
One of our member’s Aria observed a surge of wins on her Fire Bomb defense team and checked her battle log to find the same person has loss to her Fire Bomb defense team more than 5 times within a span of less than a minute.

 ![19](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/a/3/a31b14aa4308320fd30c4d8b753e71fa49250b58.jpg)  
 ![44](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/f/3/f38d205dab257bbf7e9d3da2788d1a1c06dc3aa8.jpg)

**What are the steps to make it happen again?**

Setting up a Fire Bomb defense team seems to trigger this issue.  
I can obtain further screenshots from members who have Fire Bomb defense teams with abnormal wins.

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**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 2:28am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fire-bomb-defense-teams-posting-odd-wins/43498/2 "2018-08-03T02:28:54Z")

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Explained here:

> [@PvP Defense Weirdness](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-defense-weirdness/43348/2):
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> If someone defeats you in casual it counts as a win for you.Otherwise you would get a revanche in ranked.

And here:

> [@PvP Defense Weirdness](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pvp-defense-weirdness/43348/3):
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> It’s people farming you for ingots/hero XP in casual PvP. It reports back weirdly and I don’t know why, but I also get those blobs of wins sometimes. Some genuine losses will be people accidentally setting a high difficulty, or using a weak but fast team (e.g. Rowanne and 3 flame bots, and your bots luckily destroy Rowanne’s armour so they just retreat). There’s no downside to retreating in casual.

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**Author:** ![Fiara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fiara/32/41273_2.png) [@Fiara](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fiara)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2018, 2:51am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/fire-bomb-defense-teams-posting-odd-wins/43498/3 "2018-08-03T02:51:41Z")

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Thank you Grundulum 😊

Now i’m even more confused but in summary it seems like an odd mechanism which is used to prevent revenge matches appearing from casual.

It still doesn’t solve why Raz-0 ended up with a win in casual though when he hasn’t played but the explanation of the abnormal wins is weird enough 😂