# Famine too strong for Guild War? \[SOLVED\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Archive\ **Created:** [June 10, 2017, 11:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/famine-too-strong-for-guild-war-solved/25373 "2017-06-10T11:24:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 10:31pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/famine-too-strong-for-guild-war-solved/25373/102 "2017-06-20T22:31:40Z")
Im talkimg about defense brudda im good on offense and i dont have death ---
**Author:** ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 10:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/famine-too-strong-for-guild-war-solved/25373/103 "2017-06-20T22:33:00Z")
Are you kidding me? Ever since this debate exists you and other Famine fanboys make all kinds of assumptions about people wanting Famine nerfed only want the game to be easy and have stuff handed to them for free. ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 10:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/famine-too-strong-for-guild-war-solved/25373/104 "2017-06-20T22:34:24Z")
Please link to me assigning motivation to ppl ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 10:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/famine-too-strong-for-guild-war-solved/25373/105 "2017-06-20T22:35:07Z")
Motivation and outcome tho easily confused are not the same thing ---
**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 10:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/famine-too-strong-for-guild-war-solved/25373/106 "2017-06-20T22:35:48Z")
I think it is time to stop fighting about this. Famine is what it it is going to be now (at least on PC/Mobile - console has to wait for the final nerf). Just let it go (whichever “side” you were on). ---
**Author:** ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 10:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/famine-too-strong-for-guild-war-solved/25373/107 "2017-06-20T22:36:07Z")
> [@Vangor](#): > > Im not even sure why there is any challenge at all… Everyone should be given unlimited keys and allowed to log in and open chests to their hearts content… Lets not have any challenge or competition at all The first thing i reacted to in this little exchange of ours. ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 10:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/famine-too-strong-for-guild-war-solved/25373/108 "2017-06-20T22:37:34Z")
Ya know what @Gouki nevermind i dont care… You are right i only think that everyone wanted famine nerfed because they want everything handed to them for free… It doesnt matter this game can go into the crapper for all i care ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 10:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/famine-too-strong-for-guild-war-solved/25373/109 "2017-06-20T22:38:04Z")
You are right, however this torchlight procession will never end. I can already smell the movement for another troop. ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 10:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/famine-too-strong-for-guild-war-solved/25373/110 "2017-06-20T22:39:32Z")
THAT IS AN EFFECT NOT AN ASSIGNMENT OF MOTIVATION PIMPIN… SEE MY POST ABOVE. [Famine too strong for Guild War? [SOLVED] - #105 by Vangor](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/famine-too-strong-for-guild-war-solved/25373/105) ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 10:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/famine-too-strong-for-guild-war-solved/25373/111 "2017-06-20T22:45:03Z")
Of course @Stan you are right… This is pointless… Im just gonna put up 4x astral spirit and burn my famine cards and call it a day ---
**Author:** ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 10:48pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/famine-too-strong-for-guild-war-solved/25373/112 "2017-06-20T22:48:03Z")
The outcome is exactely what was to be expected. The FamineX Teams are whack, no synergy, no strategy beyond “My Famine is stronk let’s put more of 'em in the team!”. A team so weak on all points of teambuilding should never have been as succesful as it was and now it finally isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 10:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/famine-too-strong-for-guild-war-solved/25373/113 "2017-06-20T22:53:23Z")
And now that famine is nerfed into the dirt there wont be any real challenge anywhere so why bother trying? Lets all just put up 4x war sphinx as GW def and determime winners by who has statues at lv 100 and who doesnt… That sounds much better ---
**Author:** ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 10:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/famine-too-strong-for-guild-war-solved/25373/114 "2017-06-20T22:58:45Z")
Being starved for mana by multiple Jinx and no fortune on the board until one Famine was ready and oneshot your stuff was never a challenge, you couldn’t influence it, your actions could not prevent you from not getting any manasurges until Famine was full, it was out of your hands, you just had to pray for no bad luck with surges or cascades. A team just by being able to defeat you like this is no more a challenge than russian roulette is. ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 11:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/famine-too-strong-for-guild-war-solved/25373/115 "2017-06-20T23:02:45Z")
Ok you are right… Whatever ---
**Author:** ![Venar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/venar/32/36634_2.png) [@Venar](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Venar)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 11:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/famine-too-strong-for-guild-war-solved/25373/116 "2017-06-20T23:03:34Z")
> [@Eika](#): > > You are right, however this torchlight procession will never end. I can already smell the movement for another troop. This would be expected but so far I feel like I saw more post asking to buff up more troops as today’ s buff were just not good enough maybe aside from Ketras . ---
**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 11:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/famine-too-strong-for-guild-war-solved/25373/117 "2017-06-20T23:04:16Z")
I went 3 and 2 in GW today and only saw one ‘meta’ defense from the #1 guild on PS4. That meta defence was my easiest win. The ones that beat me were clever teams that used this week’s event buffs and caught a little (but not outrageous) luck. I think I only saw 1 Famine in the bunch (and we only have the level 1 Famine nerf). There is still plenty of room to design good teams and have some success in this game, but you can’t expect that the same team will generate great results week after week after week. So hats off to Santa’s Big Gifts - you guys clearly deserve to be where you’re at in the GW rankings. (Except for their leader, who was still running the ultra-boring Kraken/Valk/Justice/Mab team. Yawn.) ---
**Author:** ![Drathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drathas/32/7344_2.png) [@Drathas](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Drathas)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 11:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/famine-too-strong-for-guild-war-solved/25373/118 "2017-06-20T23:05:31Z")
Losses, in my experience, are almost always due the the ‘Russian Roulette’ we play with the starting board and what mana gets presented throughout the match. Famine just tipped the favour of this in the way of the AI slightly by way of all it’s methods (stat reduction, mana drain OSKs etc), so instead of playing and having one round in the revolver, Famine snuck in a couple more. I can see this when: Famine defence wins almost 50% of battles, versus another good defence wins 20%. ---
**Author:** ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 11:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/famine-too-strong-for-guild-war-solved/25373/119 "2017-06-20T23:11:37Z")
I agree, though what i was getting at was that Famine didn’t increase the challenge. I didn’t need to play better against Famine teams, i didn’t need to bring my A-game, there was no _“crunch time baby it’s against Famine, i have to play extra good now”_, quite the opposite actually, Famine defenses were mostly very onedimensional, they just happened to have a good shot at winning under the right circumstances… ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 11:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/famine-too-strong-for-guild-war-solved/25373/120 "2017-06-20T23:13:47Z")
Its a valid argument @Gouki but nerfing him to the point of uselessness was imo the wrong answer ---
**Author:** ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 11:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/famine-too-strong-for-guild-war-solved/25373/121 "2017-06-20T23:21:29Z")
Honestly i think the Jury on Famines usefulness now is still out, i still see it as an exceptionell ‘counter multiple spell-based threats in one cast’ troop on offense. Personally i would have settled with either nerf(24 mana **or** Jinx removed), but don’t think the full nerf make it useless. However if it turns out to completely destroy Famine on defense and offense, i am all for revisiting the nerf in the future. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/famine-too-strong-for-guild-war-solved/25373.md?page=5) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/famine-too-strong-for-guild-war-solved/25373.md?page=7)