# Famine too strong for Guild War? \[SOLVED\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Archive\ **Created:** [June 10, 2017, 11:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/famine-too-strong-for-guild-war-solved/25373 "2017-06-10T11:24:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Cymris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/cymris/32/26078_2.png) [@Cymris](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Cymris)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 12:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/famine-too-strong-for-guild-war-solved/25373/62 "2017-06-16T12:45:41Z")
Sorry for it ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 1:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/famine-too-strong-for-guild-war-solved/25373/63 "2017-06-16T13:45:33Z")
> [@Murker](#): > > I feel like I’m letting my guild down if I only score 3000-4000 points a day, but against Famine sets sometimes even that score is hard to achieve. Without Famine in the currently meta, endgame players will never lose a single GW match. He is atm the most important troop in this game, even if he tend to annoy some. ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 4:07pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/famine-too-strong-for-guild-war-solved/25373/64 "2017-06-16T16:07:02Z")
> [@Eika](#): > > Without Famine in the currently meta, endgame players will never lose a single GW match +100 to this and its not just endgame players. I am level 701 and the only time i have ANY challenge at all in PvP or GW is against a famine team ---
**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 4:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/famine-too-strong-for-guild-war-solved/25373/65 "2017-06-16T16:11:13Z")
We get the same threads over and over because we get the same matchups over and over. Is Famine ruining GW because he’s OP? No. He’s ruining GW, and PVP for that matter, because he’s in over 80% of all teams. It’s not about wins and losses, it’s about monotony. I should probably trademark this phrase since people can’t seem to get it through their thick skulls. ---
**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 4:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/famine-too-strong-for-guild-war-solved/25373/66 "2017-06-16T16:11:44Z")
So you’re admitting he’s a problem. Finally you come to your senses. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 4:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/famine-too-strong-for-guild-war-solved/25373/67 "2017-06-16T16:12:58Z")
Are you joking me? ---
**Author:** ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 4:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/famine-too-strong-for-guild-war-solved/25373/68 "2017-06-16T16:13:12Z")
Let’s hope they introduce some AoE Instant Death troops in the future, so we all have a “challenge” in PvP again… ---
**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 4:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/famine-too-strong-for-guild-war-solved/25373/69 "2017-06-16T16:13:31Z")
No, I’m not. “He is atm the most important troop in this game” is a tacit admission that Famine is an issue. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 4:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/famine-too-strong-for-guild-war-solved/25373/70 "2017-06-16T16:13:35Z")
God only knows how they will solve it. ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 4:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/famine-too-strong-for-guild-war-solved/25373/71 "2017-06-16T16:14:06Z")
Now now boys… Lets all be nice😎 ---
**Author:** ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 4:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/famine-too-strong-for-guild-war-solved/25373/72 "2017-06-16T16:14:40Z")
I am always nice, just misunderstood often 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 4:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/famine-too-strong-for-guild-war-solved/25373/73 "2017-06-16T16:15:00Z")
As Trump says it: You are wrong! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 4:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/famine-too-strong-for-guild-war-solved/25373/74 "2017-06-16T16:16:00Z")
I know your pain lol ---
**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 4:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/famine-too-strong-for-guild-war-solved/25373/75 "2017-06-16T16:16:20Z")
Um, you’re the one that said it. You said, explicitly, that he’s the most important troop in the game. Did you not? You can’t talk your way around it, you just explained the reason why everybody and their dog has Famine (or two even) on their defense team. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 4:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/famine-too-strong-for-guild-war-solved/25373/76 "2017-06-16T16:16:54Z")
What in the hell is wrong with you today? ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 4:17pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/famine-too-strong-for-guild-war-solved/25373/77 "2017-06-16T16:17:46Z")
My dog doesnt use famine. She uses 4x dire wolf ---
**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 4:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/famine-too-strong-for-guild-war-solved/25373/78 "2017-06-16T16:18:44Z")
You’re assuming there’s something wrong? You made the statement, I pointed out the implication of that statement, you apparently can’t handle the fact that you yourself just admitted Famine is overpowered. So might I ask, what in the hell is wrong with YOU today? ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 4:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/famine-too-strong-for-guild-war-solved/25373/79 "2017-06-16T16:22:28Z")
I made a statement as I always did, Famine is needed because its the only troop that can make endgame players lose, still I lose 1 out of 30 matches against Famine teams. It is by all cost not an overpowered troop. ---
**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 4:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/famine-too-strong-for-guild-war-solved/25373/80 "2017-06-16T16:27:38Z")
Except there’s a huge whole in that logic. You’re failing to address the cause and looking instead at the effect. If Famine is the only troop that can make an endgame player lose (which is a false statement by the way, endgame players can lose to Kerb/FG and Khorvash/Mab too) then one should start looking at why it’s so easy to win instead of protecting the one tiny bandaid that’s attempting to cover a giant, gangrenous wound. It really doesn’t matter if Famine is overpowered. If I’m going to see Famine in 80% of all my matches, I’m going to continue to campaign for changes. It isn’t about challenge, it’s about boredom. ---
**Author:** ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 4:29pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/famine-too-strong-for-guild-war-solved/25373/81 "2017-06-16T16:29:14Z")
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