# Explore petition
**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/explore-petition/10448
**Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback
**Created:** [July 29, 2016, 8:09am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/explore-petition/10448 "2016-07-29T08:09:26Z")
**Posts on this page:** 19
**Page:** 3
### Author:  [@SirCookie](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/SirCookie)
#### Post date: [July 29, 2016, 7:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/explore-petition/10448/41 "2016-07-29T19:40:42Z")
> [@TaliaParks](#):
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> Since Bunni’Nog (27 Troops) the PC Weekly Arcanes have been ridiculously evenly distributed. Only Lights and Stealths haven’t been used, with NONE of the other 19 Arcanes featured more than twice.
Oh? It hasn’t really felt that way. I’ll have to double-check. BTW, I’m assuming that next week’s PC Event will be Red/Green again, so that would be a 3rd one since May 15 (Marilith, Dragon Cruncher, and now [new Leonis Epic that has been spoiled in other threads]).
Is there a good list of the event history somewhere? If not, maybe I’ll start a thread for that.
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### Author:  [@Kharybdys](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kharybdys)
#### Post date: [July 29, 2016, 7:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/explore-petition/10448/42 "2016-07-29T19:41:17Z")
You’re misunderstanding the original suggestion. It was only about completing all challenges before being allowed to enter explore and/or change difficulty in explore.
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### Author:  [@StormChasee](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/StormChasee)
#### Post date: [July 29, 2016, 7:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/explore-petition/10448/43 "2016-07-29T19:51:44Z")
I like the idea of requiring higher kingdom power (not 5, maybe 2 or 3) or completing some of the challenges before explore becomes available. In so doing there needs to be a far better chance of actually getting an arcane or at least a runic trait stone, but after you get so many of those the chances begins to diminish. That way this actually feels like a resource that does diminish if used a lot.
As it is I don’t see explore as a viable alternative to pvp or maps in getting valuable trait stones.
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### Author:  [@JasonAshcroft](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/JasonAshcroft)
#### Post date: [July 29, 2016, 7:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/explore-petition/10448/44 "2016-07-29T19:55:39Z")
Imo you can just leave explore as it is. Before they added it, the only really reliable source of traitstones was the glory reward packs. Now they added another method of getting specific stones you’re looking for.
And I for one fully traited the new class and Carnex on a sunday… and I had no single arcane that I needed. So it’s not that hard to get them. Sure, it takes a lot of games to be played, but still… it’s arcane traitstones… and you shouldnt get them handed to you on a silver plate.
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### Author:  [@Mufasha](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mufasha)
#### Post date: [July 29, 2016, 8:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/explore-petition/10448/45 "2016-07-29T20:35:53Z")
Bring back the original Dust Devils!!!
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### Author:  [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)
#### Post date: [July 29, 2016, 10:31pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/explore-petition/10448/46 "2016-07-29T22:31:56Z")
_hands over Astral Spirits_
Done!
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### Author:  [@Mr.Strange](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mr.Strange)
#### Post date: [July 29, 2016, 10:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/explore-petition/10448/47 "2016-07-29T22:50:41Z")
If I may…
You can think of Arcane traitstones as 200-300 glory each. That’s fairly true for high-level players.
If they drop 4.5% of the time in explore, that means that about every 25 games you are getting 200-300 glory. That’s an average of 10 glory per match.
Better than PvP, in terms of glory/traitstone rewards. Lower gold, of course, but that’s why it’s called choices - because each has different strengths & weaknesses.
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### Author:  [@muckguppy](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/muckguppy)
#### Post date: [July 30, 2016, 3:17am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/explore-petition/10448/48 "2016-07-30T03:17:02Z")
I’m happy with the drops so far, like people are saying… they shouldn’t be trivialised with a higher drop rate. Gems of War is all about the grind/reward after all 🙂
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### Author:  [@Phaethon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Phaethon)
#### Post date: [July 30, 2016, 3:54am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/explore-petition/10448/49 "2016-07-30T03:54:19Z")
To hearken back to OP, something is definitely wrong with the difficulty scaling of troops. A starting Fortress Gate vs a summoned FG have incredibly different stats (or is this due to the summoning glitch that was introduced with 2.0.1?).
@Nimhain
@Sirrian
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### Author:  [@JasonAshcroft](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/JasonAshcroft)
#### Post date: [July 30, 2016, 7:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/explore-petition/10448/50 "2016-07-30T07:24:21Z")
> [@Phaethon](#):
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> (or is this due to the summoning glitch that was introduced with 2.0.1?).
That summoning glitch already existed way back when they added the Darkstone kingdom… at least that was the first time I experienced it (Dark Master summoning a Thrall with 100+ hp)
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### Author:  [@Justakid](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Justakid)
#### Post date: [July 30, 2016, 4:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/explore-petition/10448/51 "2016-07-30T16:01:27Z")
Explore is the Fastest way to trait epics/legendaries, just use Celestial armor when farming it and its a piece of cake
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### Author:  [@Phaethon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Phaethon)
#### Post date: [July 30, 2016, 4:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/explore-petition/10448/52 "2016-07-30T16:47:57Z")
Ah, okay, thanks. I wasn’t aware of that. Any word as to when it will be fixed?
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### Author:  [@JasonAshcroft](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/JasonAshcroft)
#### Post date: [July 30, 2016, 9:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/explore-petition/10448/53 "2016-07-30T21:41:03Z")
Sry, no clue.
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### Author:  [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)
#### Post date: [July 31, 2016, 2:11am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/explore-petition/10448/54 "2016-07-31T02:11:43Z")
Lets say that trait stones, outside of explore had a 80% chance to drop. Within that 80% chance each stone has its own chance to drop. This is only in theory to make a point so bear with me here as the math might be kinda wacky.
These must not exceed that 80% drop rate as far as the theory holds. Each rarity must have the same chances.
Minor 1, 20%
minor 2, 20%
major 1, 10%
major 2, 10%
runic 1, 5%
runic 2, 5%
arcane 1, 5%
celestial 1, 5%
Of course these are not the correct current values but for the sake of argument at 80% chance they could be. Now in explore the chance of a trait stone dropping is 100% so what happens to the above values? They would also increase to equal 100% but that is only a theory, a game theory.
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### Author:  [@Phaethon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Phaethon)
#### Post date: [July 31, 2016, 9:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/explore-petition/10448/55 "2016-07-31T09:13:39Z")
The drop chance of a traitstone is 100% across the board, not 80…
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### Author:  [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)
#### Post date: [July 31, 2016, 11:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/explore-petition/10448/56 "2016-07-31T23:49:03Z")
This is true now, but before explore it used to not be. So in theory now that it is 100% all the chances for all the stones has increased as well even though the chances have not been directly changed (outside of explore)
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### Author:  [@Phaethon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Phaethon)
#### Post date: [August 1, 2016, 6:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/explore-petition/10448/57 "2016-08-01T06:13:46Z")
It was 100% before Explore came out. @Sirrian (iirc) confirmed it not too long ago. Explore isn’t the only place where it is/was 100%.
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### Author:  [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)
#### Post date: [August 1, 2016, 9:52am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/explore-petition/10448/58 "2016-08-01T09:52:35Z")
Explore mode takes some percentage chance from minor and major traitstone drops and gives that percentage to runics, arcanes, and celestials.
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### Author:  [@actreal](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/actreal)
#### Post date: [August 2, 2016, 1:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/explore-petition/10448/59 "2016-08-02T13:50:34Z")
> [@Lyya](#):
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> Explore mode takes some percentage chance from minor and major traitstone drops and gives that percentage to runics, arcanes, and celestials.
One could wish it took the chance all from major stones, but alas, that doesn’t appear to be the case. 🙄
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