# Epic vault jeys **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [January 21, 2024, 12:54am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-vault-jeys/83074 "2024-01-21T00:54:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Rob17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bc8723/32.png) [@Rob17](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rob17)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2024, 12:54am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-vault-jeys/83074/1 "2024-01-21T00:54:33Z")
Has there been a nerf to epic valt keys? I just ran alot of them and got maybe a hundred gems. The only constant was you got choas shards every single key always listed in the same reward space like it was a fixed reward, this is why i am asking cause they seem to be extremly bad now and drop no gems ---
**Author:** ![Stratelier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/977dab/32.png) [@Stratelier](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stratelier)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2024, 1:19am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-vault-jeys/83074/2 "2024-01-21T01:19:39Z")
When doing an Epic Vault run, the Daemon Gnome in slot #2 always drops Chaos Shards, correct. The two Treasure Gnomes drop randomized treasure the same as a standard Gnome Vault run, but _Cedric_’s drop is multiplied. ---
**Author:** ![Rob17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bc8723/32.png) [@Rob17](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rob17)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2024, 1:21am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-vault-jeys/83074/3 "2024-01-21T01:21:04Z")
I guess i am having horrible luck then lol. ---
**Author:** ![Lucien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lucien/32/75325_2.png) [@Lucien](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lucien)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2024, 3:28pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-vault-jeys/83074/4 "2024-01-21T15:28:49Z")
no, despite them saying they haven not messed with the drops, they really have reduced drops now. ---
**Author:** ![Madd\_Hurricane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/49beb7/32.png) [@Madd\_Hurricane](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Madd_Hurricane)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2024, 4:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-vault-jeys/83074/5 "2024-01-21T16:51:58Z")
There’s no nerf that I’m aware of. I only got 16 EVKs last Vault weekend due to limited play time, but out of those 16 EVKs I got one 900 gem drop and two 360 gem drops. It’s just RNG. ---
**Author:** ![Gandalfstormbringer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gandalfstormbringer/32/95569_2.png) [@Gandalfstormbringer](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gandalfstormbringer)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2024, 4:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-vault-jeys/83074/6 "2024-01-21T16:57:06Z")
Only thing il add as someone that averages 450 vks and 50 EVks every vault event. The last 2 vault events iv had keys from The forge orbs arnt dropping, and iv had loads from when they were released, so many that iv every doom weapon including the curse breakers and there all max forged. But I’m not getting anymore forge orbs max ones I mean. ---
**Author:** ![CLARE](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/clare/32/68377_2.png) [@CLARE](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/CLARE)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2024, 5:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-vault-jeys/83074/7 "2024-01-21T17:03:24Z")
Gems drop around 2x-3x less these days 😜 just grind more vault keys than before ---
**Author:** ![Seward101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ab097/32.png) [@Seward101](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Seward101)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2024, 5:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-vault-jeys/83074/8 "2024-01-21T17:04:25Z")
134 epics got 1 900 gem drop and 3 360 gem drops. I feel the gem drops have definitely been reduced. A ton of cards and cedrics. Please take cedric out, an epic reward with him in it is anything but ---
**Author:** ![Lucien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lucien/32/75325_2.png) [@Lucien](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lucien)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2024, 8:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-vault-jeys/83074/9 "2024-01-21T20:16:28Z")
YES remove cedric an put him in glory chests now