# Epic Trial is a DISASTER

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-trial-is-a-disaster/79617>\
**Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback\
**Created:** [April 26, 2023, 10:26am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-trial-is-a-disaster/79617 "2023-04-26T10:26:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Xtowers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/xtowers/32/6476_2.png) [@Xtowers](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Xtowers)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2023, 8:31pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-trial-is-a-disaster/79617/44 "2023-04-27T20:31:13Z")

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I’ve been off the game for a while now, but I’ve been hearing angst about this update on another gaming forum. I guess I don’t understand why challenges needed to be replaced by trials. Why don’t they just _add_ trials to the game? Challenges were fine as is.

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**Author:** ![Just](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/4af34b/32.png) [@Just](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Just)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2023, 8:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-trial-is-a-disaster/79617/45 "2023-04-27T20:39:51Z")

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> [@Xtowers](#):
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> I’ve been off the game for a while now, but I’ve been hearing angst about this update on another gaming forum. I guess I don’t understand why challenges needed to be replaced by trials. Why don’t they just _add_ trials to the game? Challenges were fine as is.

Because they want players to use real money to power up the garbage troops they picked for them to complete the trial, if players want to complete the trial, especially during the specific kingdom week.

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**Author:** ![Tresk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tresk/32/98004_2.png) [@Tresk](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tresk)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2023, 11:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-trial-is-a-disaster/79617/46 "2023-04-27T23:08:07Z")

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Drifiting sands is actually doable. Very boring but doable due to the enemy team also being fairly crappy. Try Suncrest and shentang if you really hate life.

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**Author:** ![Tresk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tresk/32/98004_2.png) [@Tresk](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tresk)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2023, 11:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-trial-is-a-disaster/79617/47 "2023-04-27T23:13:28Z")

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> [@SilentCitizen](#):
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> This is the first change that has made me re-think whether I want to play anymore.

I can relate. For me it’s not the fact they made it similar to Arena. It’s the fact that nobody bothered to check that the matchups they picked, all had viable win conditions. Some kingdoms matchups just flat out can’t be done, at the higher levels. That is just plain lazy design.

Also, where is the fun with having no choice available to make, with troops? At least arena has a draft.

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**Author:** ![holyporko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/holyporko/32/75733_2.png) [@holyporko](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/holyporko)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2023, 11:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-trial-is-a-disaster/79617/48 "2023-04-27T23:22:07Z")

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Agree. I bet the strategy is to leave the great maw enemy to let him devour one of your troop (not your maw). Then use your maw on it

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**Author:** ![DracoL1ch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dracol1ch/32/75027_2.png) [@DracoL1ch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DracoL1ch)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2023, 11:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-trial-is-a-disaster/79617/49 "2023-04-27T23:25:07Z")

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please give screens what is there

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**Author:** ![mgmt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mgmt/32/102258_2.png) [@mgmt](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mgmt)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2023, 11:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-trial-is-a-disaster/79617/50 "2023-04-27T23:53:18Z")

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this is abysmal, mystifying, and the most unfun thing I’ve ever played in an increasingly fun-free game

if this is their idea how to “improve” something then I don’t want to imagine the toxic slog they’re about to turn campaigns into

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**Author:** ![Tresk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tresk/32/98004_2.png) [@Tresk](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tresk)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2023, 2:09am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-trial-is-a-disaster/79617/51 "2023-04-28T02:09:15Z")

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@DracoL1ch I can’t give a screen because I finished it. But it was Roc, Great Maw, Sky scorpion and Mad Prophet for our team.

Mad prophet is completely useless heh. But it didn’t matter much. Enemy team had Great Maw, Sand Shark and I don’t remember what else. Best strategy for me was to Great maw the enemy great maw. Chip with skulls on Roc till it dies (if it dies) then finish chipping with skulls with maw. Boring as watching paint dry but not hard.

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**Author:** ![mitamata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mitamata/32/10313_2.png) [@mitamata](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mitamata)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2023, 3:50am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-trial-is-a-disaster/79617/52 "2023-04-28T03:50:48Z")

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![Screenshot_20230427-204956](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/2/d/2dba1559fc2a77e96fad022e8434f2a49b21238a.jpeg)

 ![Screenshot_20230427-204941](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/c/d/cd24b19934ddd9787ce2a192b29d40fb7afd2ce5.jpeg)

I never bothered completing them 😒

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**Author:** ![Khan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3ab097/32.png) [@Khan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Khan)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2023, 4:30am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-trial-is-a-disaster/79617/53 "2023-04-28T04:30:27Z")

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> [@Wooly](#):
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> Literally

The devs wanted it. Therefore it had to be a good idea right?  
Note there is NO WAY known to man or the Gods of any religion or pantheon to put enough sarcasm into these comments.

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**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2023, 4:36am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-trial-is-a-disaster/79617/54 "2023-04-28T04:36:59Z")

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Has anyone seen Darkstone yet?

Corrupt Troll, Blind Guardian, Psion, Sea Troll

… you’re expected to win with Psion…

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**Author:** ![Khan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3ab097/32.png) [@Khan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Khan)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2023, 4:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-trial-is-a-disaster/79617/55 "2023-04-28T04:53:00Z")

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> [@Maisie](#):
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> but the communication on this has been … not great? _One_ forum post which now keeps sliding out of the recents; no followups from CS on any of the now multiple threads here questioning the million-gems thing; nothing in-game to explain it.

I hope you’re not expecting anything (beyond the standard 50 gems) in the way of compensation. You’ll be sadly disappointed if you are.

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**Author:** ![Khan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3ab097/32.png) [@Khan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Khan)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2023, 5:05am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-trial-is-a-disaster/79617/56 "2023-04-28T05:05:24Z")

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> [@PythagorasGamer](#):
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> > [@SE7ENDEVILS](#):
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> > So im forced to use a garbage team
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> Nope, not forced. If you dont like the mode, dont do it. It’s optional. Choice is good.

No, though it is optional to do it, if one really does want to do it, the choice of WHAT TO USE has been removed, leaving the player with a crap option.

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**Author:** ![esslee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/esslee/32/103072_2.png) [@esslee](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/esslee)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2023, 6:29am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-trial-is-a-disaster/79617/57 "2023-05-10T06:29:57Z")

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UTTERLY RIDICULOUS  
There is NO way to win this.  
Attack is quickly diminished with no way to increase it and magic starts at 65 and can go up by 2 only points on one troop.

Also, of course you would choose Pans Vale banner green/yellow when there aren’t any yellow troops !

 ![IMG_9036](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/9/e/9e51f4dd119dbf11375bc0e601dc781f33289330.jpeg)  
 ![IMG_9038](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/f/d/fd2d469bfa988915d582d83f4b6056154adfc376.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![DracoL1ch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dracol1ch/32/75027_2.png) [@DracoL1ch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DracoL1ch)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2023, 7:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-trial-is-a-disaster/79617/58 "2023-05-10T07:24:34Z")

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put Satyr first and they wont steal it

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**Author:** ![esslee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/esslee/32/103072_2.png) [@esslee](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/esslee)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2023, 8:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-trial-is-a-disaster/79617/59 "2023-05-10T08:56:56Z")

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OK - Fair doos  
BUT nearly thirty minutes in and Elwyn has consistently hit Satyr (so much for random) and now he is dead 🤣😱

 ![IMG_9042](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/c/9/c98d357ba1ae2c0b1dd4c70035c42d7a0f754601.jpeg)

ps Tried again with Satyr, Cap, Sileni, Burrow - this time 20 minutes in Satyr got killed off again despite trying to kill him off first.

Not fun - total waste of my time

 ![IMG_9048](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/f/b/fb735dd550367c0e6e02c2ea58aa8a9a6cc93139.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![DracoL1ch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dracol1ch/32/75027_2.png) [@DracoL1ch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DracoL1ch)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2023, 10:06am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-trial-is-a-disaster/79617/60 "2023-05-10T10:06:32Z")

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yeah, just like previous trials - you must restart a lot until staff happens in your favor  
or maybe restart until something like this?

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/d/0/d051210ecb32b0e5fa550ea9fb6573ad9e721fb7.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2023, 10:58am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-trial-is-a-disaster/79617/61 "2023-05-10T10:58:40Z")

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![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/2/0/20b38b8f7ccda63dc8fb7ac06f18e6504eec8e2e.jpeg)  
This is level 225 for getting 1 pet copy. Just this level took me 57 minutes. No way I gonna waste more time on the next levels. Naive of me to even go for one copy, should just have left it alone.

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**Author:** ![esslee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/esslee/32/103072_2.png) [@esslee](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/esslee)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2023, 11:41am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-trial-is-a-disaster/79617/62 "2023-05-10T11:41:43Z")

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I spent the same amount of minutes not getting a copy - but the same conclusion ABANDON SHIP !  
🤣🤣🤣

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**Author:** ![Supremesis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/supremesis/32/24521_2.png) [@Supremesis](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Supremesis)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2023, 11:58am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-trial-is-a-disaster/79617/63 "2023-05-10T11:58:11Z")

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Nice emphasis on the insta kill there 20 dmg is mind whopping isn’t it, thank’s needed that! lmao jokes aside yeah the team’s we have vs there’s is a pretty lopsided battle :')

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