# Epic trash rewards **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\ **Created:** [May 12, 2026, 6:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-trash-rewards/89653 "2026-05-12T18:13:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Seward101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ab097/32.png) [@Seward101](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Seward101)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2026, 6:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-trash-rewards/89653/1 "2026-05-12T18:13:55Z")
This is an epic vault key drop. Really? ![20260512_191138](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/5/6/56c111c689faea34b14e28e66b0d7bfc4f13a4a3.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2026, 6:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-trash-rewards/89653/2 "2026-05-12T18:38:29Z")
Is this the first time you have opened an Epic vault key or? This is usual what you get from them, something you don’t need. ---
**Author:** ![Kezef](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Kezef](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kezef)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2026, 6:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-trash-rewards/89653/3 "2026-05-12T18:54:13Z")
There’s only one thing I look for when I spend Vault Keys, and that’s any Tarot troop that I don’t yet have. (As a fully F2P player, that means one new Tarot troop every ~3 months or so.) Almost everything else in that drop table may as well be useless garbage to me, although the occasional “jackpot” of Gems can be a welcome happenstance. Admittedly, getting that new Tarot troop is a royal pain-in-the-tucchus. And one that gets increasingly difficult over time because there are more Tarot cards to sort through but the same overall odds to pull one at all. (Let alone the one I “need”.) I wish the system were better. But at least there are semi-reliable ways to farm Vault Keys in some quantity and the Vault battle itself is a really quick thing to go through. ---
**Author:** ![Seward101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ab097/32.png) [@Seward101](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Seward101)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2026, 7:07pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-trash-rewards/89653/4 "2026-05-12T19:07:16Z")
Not at all just highlighting the absolute trash that we get. These are supposed to be epic but they are anything but. Really hoping they get a rework because shards and cedrics shouldn’t be in an epic key imo ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2026, 7:07pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-trash-rewards/89653/5 "2026-05-12T19:07:59Z")
I can’t remember last time I got something half decent from them, and opened like 50 the last year or so. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2026, 7:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-trash-rewards/89653/6 "2026-05-12T19:08:41Z")
Any clue what the previous Tarot card that was added to the Vault were? ---
**Author:** ![Maisie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8edcca/32.png) [@Maisie](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Maisie)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2026, 7:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-trash-rewards/89653/7 "2026-05-12T19:26:01Z")
> [@Kezef](#): > > Almost everything else in that drop table may as well be useless garbage to me, although the occasional “jackpot” of Gems can be a welcome happenstance. For me: Vault’s useful for restocking Gems; and for farming for Orbs of Glory, particularly Major Orbs of Glory, for medalling up mythics and legendaries; quicker and easier than grinding Explore for Nysha tokens. ---
**Author:** ![Darkborne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/darkborne/32/95796_2.png) [@Darkborne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Darkborne)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2026, 7:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-trash-rewards/89653/8 "2026-05-12T19:26:54Z")
Queen of Cups is in the drop table from 2 campaigns ago, and the Queen of Runes should be added next week. (But Jeto is probably swamped, so we should be patient…) No changes to vault key rewards (besides the new chaos orbs we got) makes them not that valuable to end gamers. We just get the new Tarot card and only the gems have some value. I asked about changing vault key rewards, and nothing has happened, so all our opinions are just dust in the wind anyway… > [@Changes to Cedric's Rewards](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/changes-to-cedrics-rewards/83090/5): > > The gnomes, tarot cards, and Cedric need to be treated like guardian troops from guild chests. Once we have 4 copies of each unique troop, they should no longer drop, so that we have an increased chance of getting better rewards. Nothing more needs to be said. We have been requesting this for a long time, and this issue needs to be addressed.beer ---
**Author:** ![NerdieBirdie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nerdiebirdie/32/103793_2.png) [@NerdieBirdie](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/NerdieBirdie)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2026, 7:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-trash-rewards/89653/9 "2026-05-12T19:35:36Z")
> [@Eika](#): > > Any clue what the previous Tarot card that was added to the Vault were? [The Taranium has a link](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1auBq52RryNh507W3NKM0khhBO4VE9FI9EqAZJhUsy70/edit?gid=903505549#gid=903505549) to a table the fantastic Shirley keeps updated. It shows which tarot cards have gone into the vault, as well as what other previously paywalled troops are available for F2F players. ---
**Author:** ![Hayabusa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hayabusa/32/85130_2.png) [@Hayabusa](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Hayabusa)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2026, 8:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-trash-rewards/89653/10 "2026-05-12T20:57:11Z")
Actually my rewards usually are much worse than those. 100 shards and 12K souls is extremely good compared to other stuff. And I have 12m spare souls already. 🤔 As long as there’s no Cedric I’m fine with any rewards. ---
**Author:** ![Darkborne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/darkborne/32/95796_2.png) [@Darkborne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Darkborne)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2026, 9:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-trash-rewards/89653/11 "2026-05-12T21:27:11Z")
We should just stop getting troop cards from vault keys once we have 4 copies, just like guild keys with those common guild troop cards. It would help make vault keys more valuable and remove about 50% of the useless rewards. I have a better chance negotiating a deal with my Calico than that ever happening.🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Neutral](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/977dab/32.png) [@Neutral](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Neutral)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2026, 4:12am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-trash-rewards/89653/12 "2026-05-13T04:12:29Z")
Yes. Unfortunately the epic cedric has a chance to drop 12000 souls. The regular cedric has a chance to drop 3000 souls. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2026, 9:28am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-trash-rewards/89653/13 "2026-05-13T09:28:51Z")
Bookmarked, cheers! ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2026, 9:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-trash-rewards/89653/14 "2026-05-13T09:31:13Z")
I soooo need Queen of Runes. ---
**Author:** ![Seward101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ab097/32.png) [@Seward101](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Seward101)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2026, 11:38am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-trash-rewards/89653/15 "2026-05-13T11:38:56Z")
Think I have like 3000 cedrics. Im building my cedric army 😆 ---
**Author:** ![Zuul-Emo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/67e7ee/32.png) [@Zuul-Emo](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zuul-Emo)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2026, 4:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-trash-rewards/89653/16 "2026-05-13T16:23:28Z")
> [@Seward101](#): > > Think I have like 3000 cedrics. Im building my cedric army 😆 I have no idea how many I’ve gotten. I keep grinding them all down and taking their souls. But a Cedric army is intriguing. 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Cheersdude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a88e4f/32.png) [@Cheersdude](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Cheersdude)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2026, 4:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-trash-rewards/89653/17 "2026-05-13T16:57:23Z")
I did a day on pvp with a mimic party. 3 different mimics Pretty good. Lots of wins. I do wish we could rub it in opponents faces tho 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Seward101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ab097/32.png) [@Seward101](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Seward101)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2026, 5:15am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-trash-rewards/89653/18 "2026-05-14T05:15:05Z")
Just wish they would do something with the rewards but no another resource incoming ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2026, 10:09am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/epic-trash-rewards/89653/19 "2026-05-28T10:09:40Z")
> [@Darkborne](#): > > and the Queen of Runes should be added next week. The waiting game is real.