# Empowered troop with devour spell

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/empowered-troop-with-devour-spell/19173>\
**Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback\
**Created:** [January 30, 2017, 12:06am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/empowered-troop-with-devour-spell/19173 "2017-01-30T00:06:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![AnutyrThePirate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/anutyrthepirate/32/12878_2.png) [@AnutyrThePirate](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/AnutyrThePirate)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 12:06am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/empowered-troop-with-devour-spell/19173/1 "2017-01-30T00:06:03Z")

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no one wants one

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**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 12:10am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/empowered-troop-with-devour-spell/19173/2 "2017-01-30T00:10:25Z")

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Worst idea ever! What happen if i got 4x this troop? I think we got enough devour and mana drain troop this is just killing the game

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**Author:** ![ColonielZoland88](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/colonielzoland88/32/19387_2.png) [@ColonielZoland88](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ColonielZoland88)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 12:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/empowered-troop-with-devour-spell/19173/3 "2017-01-30T00:13:20Z")

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I liked the idea behind this troop although the second trait should have either Warded (immune to death mark), Indigestible (immune to devour), or Sturdy (immune to poison), Impervious is a bit too much for a troop like this, everything else I agree with. But right now maybe we should wait a while before getting a troop like this, we got enough troops right now that can devour people.

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**Author:** ![jeno](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jeno/32/20235_2.png) [@jeno](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/jeno)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 12:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/empowered-troop-with-devour-spell/19173/4 "2017-01-30T00:13:47Z")

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why not 100% chance? +create 8 skulls boosted by enemy hp (1:1). +regain full mana if somebody dies by the spell.

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**Author:** ![MakoSipper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/makosipper/32/1933_2.png) [@MakoSipper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MakoSipper)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 12:14am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/empowered-troop-with-devour-spell/19173/5 "2017-01-30T00:14:37Z")

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The closer to this that would have the least chance of breaking the game entirely would be a Mythics troop, with Fast (not Empowered), and cost of over 20. And that troop would still be insanely OP. Remember that even Manticore was nerfed from Empowered to Fast.

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**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 12:15am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/empowered-troop-with-devour-spell/19173/6 "2017-01-30T00:15:07Z")

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> [@jeno](#):
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> why not 100% chance? +create 8 skulls boosted by enemy hp (1:1). +regain full mana if somebody dies by the spell.

You forgot 100% skull damage reduction

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**Author:** ![MakoSipper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/makosipper/32/1933_2.png) [@MakoSipper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MakoSipper)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 12:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/empowered-troop-with-devour-spell/19173/7 "2017-01-30T00:16:28Z")

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No, make it 95% skull damage reduction, since 100% would totally break the game.

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**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 12:27am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/empowered-troop-with-devour-spell/19173/10 "2017-01-30T00:27:58Z")

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Okay, wow, here I thought you were being ironic and making a sarcastic jab at the game’s power creep. You’re actually _serious_ about Empowered+Devour.

I am curious to see how far backward into his head @Jainus ’ eyes will roll.

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**Author:** ![MineralsMan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mineralsman/32/12212_2.png) [@MineralsMan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MineralsMan)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 2:15am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/empowered-troop-with-devour-spell/19173/12 "2017-01-30T02:15:59Z")

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> [@AnutyrThePirate](#):
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> I think it would be really interesting if we got another empowered troop, but with devour.

😆

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**Author:** ![StormChasee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/858c86/32.png) [@StormChasee](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/StormChasee)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 2:34am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/empowered-troop-with-devour-spell/19173/13 "2017-01-30T02:34:34Z")

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Absolutely not. Devour is overpowered as it is.

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**Author:** ![JapanGamer29](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/japangamer29/32/10063_2.png) [@JapanGamer29](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/JapanGamer29)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 3:42am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/empowered-troop-with-devour-spell/19173/14 "2017-01-30T03:42:39Z")

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Gob-chomper has Empowered and Devour. Fortunately it’s limited to goblins and is only 40%.

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**Author:** ![Zelfore](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zelfore/32/22295_2.png) [@Zelfore](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zelfore)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 3:44am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/empowered-troop-with-devour-spell/19173/15 "2017-01-30T03:44:04Z")

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I _might_ be okay with this if-

1. it’s chances of devour were reduced to 10%.

- It’s first trait was something more thematic like Necromancy. If you want to keep the double damage, be sure to call it by it’s decided name, Human Slayer.

- Replace impervious with something more reasonable like Life Drain. (Also, the unique trait suggestions can’t work with an Epic.)

- Make it’s spell cost 13, and it’s magic damage a scaling roll like [Beserker](http://ashtender.com/gems/troops/6061).

- And finally, make it super fragile like [Mummified King](http://ashtender.com/gems/troops/6286) or [Skeleton](http://ashtender.com/gems/troops/6036).

Now, you could argue “That’s too extreme!”  
And yeah, it is, but so is an empowered devourer of only Epic rarity.

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**Author:** ![RiverSong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/riversong/32/2089_2.png) [@RiverSong](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/RiverSong)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 3:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/empowered-troop-with-devour-spell/19173/16 "2017-01-30T03:53:19Z")

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An empowered devourer is, without doubt, the worst troop suggestion I have ever heard.

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**Author:** ![Zelfore](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zelfore/32/22295_2.png) [@Zelfore](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zelfore)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 4:03am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/empowered-troop-with-devour-spell/19173/17 "2017-01-30T04:03:09Z")

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> [@RiverSong](#):
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> An empowered devoured is, without doubt, the worst troop suggestion I have ever heard.

To be fair, Gob-Chomper fits the same bill. Maybe if this suggestion also only worked with humans (and just straight killed instead of devoured) then it could work. (Minus the impervious/2nd-trait nonsense.)

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**Author:** ![ZooKeeper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zookeeper/32/30875_2.png) [@ZooKeeper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ZooKeeper)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 4:05am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/empowered-troop-with-devour-spell/19173/18 "2017-01-30T04:05:16Z")

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> [@Zelfore](#):
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> I might be okay with this if-
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> it’s chances of devour were reduced to 10%.  
> It’s first trait was something more thematic like Necromancy. If you want to keep the double damage, be sure to call it by it’s decided name, Human Slayer.  
> Replace impervious with something more reasonable like Life Drain. (Also, the unique trait suggestions can’t work with an Epic.)  
> Make it’s spell cost 13, and it’s magic damage a scaling roll like Beserker.  
> And finally, make it super fragile like Mummified King or Skeleton.
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> Now, you could argue "That’s too extreme!"And yeah, it is, but so is an empowered devourer of only Epic rarity.

If I may add to your suggestion, the devour should also be limited to certain type of troops. Right now, we have 3 giant with devour on its spell and all are limited to certain type of troops (Gob-Chomper, Elf-Eater, and Dragon Cruncher). Out of those 3, only Gob-Chomper has empowered on its trait.

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**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 6:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/empowered-troop-with-devour-spell/19173/19 "2017-01-30T06:16:00Z")

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I’m not sure I need to grace this thread with my presence… @RiverSong said it neatly enough…

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**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 10:27am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/empowered-troop-with-devour-spell/19173/20 "2017-01-30T10:27:03Z")

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> [@Jainus](#):
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> I’m not sure I need to grace this thread with my presence… @RiverSong said it neatly enough…

Hey, no backing out, how far backward into you head did your eyes roll? Pics please! 😵

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**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 10:34am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/empowered-troop-with-devour-spell/19173/21 "2017-01-30T10:34:27Z")

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Did you know that it’s possible to pull your superior rectus muscle? Neither did I before Jainus found out for us.

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**Author:** ![AnutyrThePirate](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/anutyrthepirate/32/12878_2.png) [@AnutyrThePirate](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/AnutyrThePirate)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 12:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/empowered-troop-with-devour-spell/19173/22 "2017-01-30T12:26:27Z")

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can can anyone delete this thread?

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**Author:** ![Whiskeyjack](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/whiskeyjack/32/65850_2.png) [@Whiskeyjack](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Whiskeyjack)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 4:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/empowered-troop-with-devour-spell/19173/23 "2017-01-30T16:14:46Z")

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Maw + mercy is already a 10% (or thereabouts) chance to devour on the first turn.

Forest guardian + wolfgarak is already a mythic with “fast”.

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