# Dusk Sets on Krystara (AKA The Dawnbringer Fix) **URL:** \ **Category:** Official News\ **Created:** [April 18, 2018, 4:01am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dusk-sets-on-krystara-aka-the-dawnbringer-fix/38314 "2018-04-18T04:01:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Slypenslyde](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/slypenslyde/32/30373_2.png) [@Slypenslyde](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Slypenslyde)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 5:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dusk-sets-on-krystara-aka-the-dawnbringer-fix/38314/62 "2018-04-18T17:05:14Z")
> [@ONOPALAVER](#): > > Why not make a button to instantly victory? They did. It’s called “use Dawnbringer as your Arena weapon”. The problem is it disproportionately changed the difficulty for people without it. > [@ONOPALAVER](#): > > Arena get a change to make it more easier but again pvp still the same. Just two days ago they nerfed Nyx and Florian in an attempt to deal with “too much looping” in PvP. The last major update introduced the Ancestry traits, designed to deal with “too much mana drain/burn” in PvP. Kraken was nerfed at least twice to deal with “too hard to win in PvP”. 4-matches don’t Mana Surge anymore because they wanted to deal with “too hard in PvP”. The Dragon Soul was nerfed because it was “too annoying in PvP/GW”. Every Troll was nerfed because there was too much looping in PvP. The devs are _constantly_ working on PvP. I’m not bitter about this, it’s the flagship game mode. Do not insult their work because you’re upset that some game mode you don’t like got a change you didn’t care about. PvP balance is a very hard problem that is in constant flux. Please direct this negative energy at one of the problems that has a direct and actionable solution, like the graphical glitches or that many troops/weapons don’t actually function as described, or maybe start a thread about a proposed nerf to some random troop that will for reals this time end all PvP problems. Believe in something. Fight for it. Don’t try to tear down the things other people believe in along the way if you don’t have to. ---
**Author:** ![Razzagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/razzagor/32/50037_2.png) [@Razzagor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razzagor)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 5:09pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dusk-sets-on-krystara-aka-the-dawnbringer-fix/38314/63 "2018-04-18T17:09:49Z")
> [@Rickygervais](#): > > I think you made your own conclusion about that I concluded it’s natural that everyone have their owm priorities and problems they want to be solved as soon as possible, but solving them is not about pestering the devs “creating 100 threads”. It just reflects poorly on yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 5:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dusk-sets-on-krystara-aka-the-dawnbringer-fix/38314/64 "2018-04-18T17:11:16Z")
> [@Razzagor](#): > > creating 100 threads”. It just reflects poorly on yourself. I see you not familiar with sarcasm but it’s okay i forgive you 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Razzagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/razzagor/32/50037_2.png) [@Razzagor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razzagor)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 5:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dusk-sets-on-krystara-aka-the-dawnbringer-fix/38314/65 "2018-04-18T17:14:23Z")
Sarcasm is often unclear on the internet given the context. But i’m fine missing it or not. ---
**Author:** ![ONOPALAVER](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/onopalaver/32/46403_2.png) [@ONOPALAVER](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ONOPALAVER)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 5:17pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dusk-sets-on-krystara-aka-the-dawnbringer-fix/38314/66 "2018-04-18T17:17:32Z")
I think you and others not understand my point I have Dawnbringer and I not cry of arenas enemies and I never cry about nyx I´m talking about who are going to be now the things in the most top guilds. If you want to stay at their numbers only arenas can made it possible, because now are more easier than with dawnbringer. Soon you will see the number of trophies of many guilds implemented a lot and many less people probable playing pvp, or maybe new ones. I´m not saying that nerf Dawnbringer in arena is a bad point but maybe this type of fix is not the better I guess at least for me. This is an opinion only a point of view. Sure I understand others and I give my. And I talk about pvp because the rewards never change and nothing new is implemented not about defense teams or whatever ---
**Author:** ![Slypenslyde](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/slypenslyde/32/30373_2.png) [@Slypenslyde](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Slypenslyde)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 5:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dusk-sets-on-krystara-aka-the-dawnbringer-fix/38314/67 "2018-04-18T17:24:37Z")
I get you, but if you follow along in the epic thread, you’ll find that it’s not like the people who have DB were losing a significant number of Arenas. If they were still at about 50%, yes, we’d see a big explosion. But really what we’ll see instead is “every day, more players have Dawnbringer”. I’m 530k souls into farming for it. My guess is while plenty of people 8-0 Arena fairly consistently, they do it much _faster_ with Dawnbringer. That’s where your explosion will come from, and it was happening whether or not this “nerf” came out. The trophies leaderboard has always been, “Who spends the most time trophy farming?” That’s not going to change. The only time a leaderboard displays actual prowess is in the energy-based games we all hate. ---
**Author:** ![ONOPALAVER](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/onopalaver/32/46403_2.png) [@ONOPALAVER](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ONOPALAVER)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 5:30pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dusk-sets-on-krystara-aka-the-dawnbringer-fix/38314/68 "2018-04-18T17:30:23Z")
If you make a style play easier and also give you more trophies , what are you going to do if you want to be at the top trophies guilds? Is easy to see. I win arenas before I have dawnbringer to enemies with it and I win against nyx combos mostly of the times. People want everything more easier and only need time to try some teams and they will find some of them good to defeat this two handicaps. If everytime the people cry, we make a fix or a nerf the game will be broken. So if someone cry about the powerfull troop Infernus they will nerf it also, that is what we want? Changes, more changes and nerf and fix everyday. Give time to try people and not cry for everything. Is easy. But again I say, I understand all points of view. I give mine. ---
**Author:** ![Santandrix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/santandrix/32/68758_2.png) [@Santandrix](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Santandrix)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 5:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dusk-sets-on-krystara-aka-the-dawnbringer-fix/38314/69 "2018-04-18T17:39:25Z")
I agree with you @ONOPALAVER, we don’t want a easy game where they nerf it all!! That’s why I started this thread over half a year ago. > [@I’d like to say thank you to the devs and I hope the rest of you do too!](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/i-d-like-to-say-thank-you-to-the-devs-and-i-hope-the-rest-of-you-do-too/28409): > > So I have been here on forums for about half a year and it seems like the majority here think this is for complaints and troop hating. Now there are plenty of team building threads and helpful guides, beginner videos etc. But yet everyday we see more and more complaints about how hard it is and blah, blah, blah. For those of us who like this game we don’t want to see it ruined so can you please stop trying to nerf every troop you lose too? Let’s use this thread to compliment the devs for wor… Funny how a lot has changed here other then how many nerf call outs we hear here weekly. Let’s just sit back and enjoy the game they make for us. Let’s just not go nerf crazy,y here! ---
**Author:** ![UKresistance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ukresistance/32/7558_2.png) [@UKresistance](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/UKresistance)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 6:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dusk-sets-on-krystara-aka-the-dawnbringer-fix/38314/70 "2018-04-18T18:01:00Z")
Pharos ra made it to soul forge… Dawnbringer in arena fixed… So what’s the next mega topic that takes no effort to fix but drags on ridiculously? I want to say 50 gem hero class change cost. ---
**Author:** ![Razzagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/razzagor/32/50037_2.png) [@Razzagor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razzagor)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 6:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dusk-sets-on-krystara-aka-the-dawnbringer-fix/38314/71 "2018-04-18T18:02:46Z")
> [@Santandrix](#): > > Let’s just not go nerf crazy,y here! A lot of us would be thrilled if the devs would buff more old troops decently, this is asked a lot and highly relevant for these new events with restrictions of races/types or kingdoms. Asking for nerfs was, mostly, a reflex of new designs overthrowing old standards/measures of balance in the game. Maw, Mab, Manticore, Wisp, Fizzbang, Trolls… It’s a long list of new designs being overly dominant because the numbers and effects were simply over the top. I assume that each brand new feature takes a lot of time and work, so hopefully after the pets we’ll see more reworks. ---
**Author:** ![Santandrix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/santandrix/32/68758_2.png) [@Santandrix](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Santandrix)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 6:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dusk-sets-on-krystara-aka-the-dawnbringer-fix/38314/72 "2018-04-18T18:02:55Z")
How about these new modes getting a buff with per match rewards. Gold, a trophy, maybe more seals, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Razzagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/razzagor/32/50037_2.png) [@Razzagor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razzagor)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 6:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dusk-sets-on-krystara-aka-the-dawnbringer-fix/38314/73 "2018-04-18T18:12:15Z")
> [@Santandrix](#): > > How about these new modes getting a buff with per match rewards. Gold, a trophy, maybe more seals, etc. I agree it would be ideal and even suggested some distribution of such rewards on each event. But i would not be surprised, **at all** , that if when they introduce such changes we would have complains that now players are feeling **FORCED** to play these modes to not miss out these completely unexclusive rewards… 😆 ---
**Author:** ![Santandrix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/santandrix/32/68758_2.png) [@Santandrix](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Santandrix)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 6:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dusk-sets-on-krystara-aka-the-dawnbringer-fix/38314/74 "2018-04-18T18:19:32Z")
> [@Razzagor](#): > > . But i would not be surprised, at all, that if when they introduce such changes we would have complains that now players are feeling FORCED to play these modes to not miss out these completely unexclusive rewards… 😆 I’m already hearing this is our guild chat and we are now figuring out exactly what we want to happen In our guild. Its definitely brought changes. ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 6:30pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dusk-sets-on-krystara-aka-the-dawnbringer-fix/38314/75 "2018-04-18T18:30:26Z")
To those who are complaining about people complaining…I would like to offer my complaints about your complaining. That is all. Good day. ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 6:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dusk-sets-on-krystara-aka-the-dawnbringer-fix/38314/76 "2018-04-18T18:33:57Z")
In all seriousness…I myself don’t play arena. Dawnbringer or none. The fix seems like an easy one though. So I guess I’m just curious. What took so long? - Did no one think of this until recently? - Or did the programming just take a long time? For months the narrative was “it’s not an easy fix”. But yet here we are…with an easy fix. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 6:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dusk-sets-on-krystara-aka-the-dawnbringer-fix/38314/77 "2018-04-18T18:34:00Z")
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**Author:** ![Lardy-Porker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lardy-porker/32/25588_2.png) [@Lardy-Porker](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lardy-Porker)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 6:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dusk-sets-on-krystara-aka-the-dawnbringer-fix/38314/78 "2018-04-18T18:36:09Z")
> [@Santandrix](#): > > I agree with you @ONOPALAVER, we don’t want a easy game where they nerf it all!! Speak for yourself, I’m hoping to implement Dawnbringer-ban rules in other games I play! For example, Chess is ever so much more fun when your opponent doesn’t get a queen. Hockey is a much easier sport when the other team isn’t allowed to have a goalie. And tic-tac-toe is a breeze for the “X” player when "O"s are banned! 😄 When they introduce the 2nd Mythic weapon it should be called “Participation Trophy” and allow the wielder to automatically win every match they play. Charge a million gems for it and watch game revenue skyrocket! 🤑 ---
**Author:** ![Razzagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/razzagor/32/50037_2.png) [@Razzagor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razzagor)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 6:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dusk-sets-on-krystara-aka-the-dawnbringer-fix/38314/79 "2018-04-18T18:41:02Z")
> [@Lardy-Porker](#): > > When they introduce the 2nd Mythic weapon it should be called “Participation Trophy” and allow the wielder to automatically win every match they play. Jokes aside, the next Mythic weapon to be introduced into the game could be “Dusk-something”, also consisting of three parts, but what if we would use lots of Gold for ar least one piece and if we would have quests in some kingdoms to unlock the secret of such weapons? Nothing too fancy in the battles to not make ir more restrictive to obtain, just a little more interesting. Something like: - Fighting an army from Darkstone seeking to corrupt a holy relic on Whitehelm, by the end of it we would fail to protect the relic, but we would take it with us to be assured it wouldn’t be used for evil purposes. Just finishing this quest _“would give”_ us one piece, but the corrupted relic would need to be charged¹ in the soulforge… **¹Yeah, we would charge it by crafting it with souls and jewels.** - Capturing and interrogating one spy from Darkstones would lead us t investigate a legend of some secret dungeon on Ghulvania, and there we would find a tome describing how to craft an ancient dark weapon using a corrupted relic like the one we just **conveniently** have with us. We would unlock another craft recipe. - At last we would need an artifact of extreme avarice, and making a deal with a Gnome to protect him from all the greedy adventurers out there he would then give us the last craft recipe. (This would be the piece requiring gold to craft). ---
**Author:** ![Lardy-Porker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lardy-porker/32/25588_2.png) [@Lardy-Porker](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lardy-Porker)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 6:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dusk-sets-on-krystara-aka-the-dawnbringer-fix/38314/80 "2018-04-18T18:43:06Z")
I vote for making zero-member guilds disappear… It’s a very complicated issue that they are studying! 😆 ---
**Author:** ![Slypenslyde](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/slypenslyde/32/30373_2.png) [@Slypenslyde](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Slypenslyde)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 6:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dusk-sets-on-krystara-aka-the-dawnbringer-fix/38314/81 "2018-04-18T18:47:18Z")
> [@UKresistance](#): > > So what’s the next mega topic that takes no effort to fix but drags on ridiculously? > > I want to say 50 gem hero class change cost. I like this. That’s another clear, actionable thing I think can be made a priority if enough players rally behind it. Plus we’ll get to see people cry that it makes Raids/Invasions easier or something. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dusk-sets-on-krystara-aka-the-dawnbringer-fix/38314.md?page=3) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dusk-sets-on-krystara-aka-the-dawnbringer-fix/38314.md?page=5)