# Dungeon Perfect Run
**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dungeon-perfect-run/76686
**Category:** Uncategorized
**Created:** [August 24, 2022, 1:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dungeon-perfect-run/76686 "2022-08-24T13:02:27Z")
**Posts on this page:** 17
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### Author:  [@Helvellyn](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Helvellyn)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2022, 6:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dungeon-perfect-run/76686/21 "2022-08-25T18:40:05Z")
You love accusing folks of trolling if their opinion remotely differs from yours. Or if their spending or time availability differs from yours. Who exactly is the troll here?
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### Author:  [@CaptainAwesome](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/CaptainAwesome)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2022, 7:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dungeon-perfect-run/76686/22 "2022-08-25T19:40:55Z")
Well since **you**
- are not able to read the patch notes **BEFORE** you start to complain about them
- judging other people for **their** amount of time **they** wanna spend on this game while
- complain in almost every post, that you don’t like the direction this game goes/has gone in the past
- are not able to accept that the game got more different layers over time (which you are probably not able to deal with)
- ask questions/post comments that are neither entertaining or have anything to do with the topic or a comment by another person
- still keep playing a game that you dislike so much more and more **AND** stay in this forum annoying other people with such stuff mentioned above
Yeah, I consider you being the troll here since your _“opinion”_ is to dislike the game no matter what.
Accept the fact, that the game is not going in _“your”_ direction. If you don’t like that, you can complain about it ofcourse, but you should be aware that the devs are not making the game just for you and that their direction probably won’t ever change.
Maybe it’s time for you to say goodbye and leave those players who still enjoy the game (in one way or another) alone.
And btw. I love to mock on those kind of people like you just for my enjoyment (and maybe others too).
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### Author:  [@JamesDurning](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/JamesDurning)
#### Post date: [August 26, 2022, 2:48pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dungeon-perfect-run/76686/23 "2022-08-26T14:48:51Z")
Completed a level 3 dungeon today: got **86** dragonite. Not sure if it’s increasing because of level, or it’s within the bounds of randomness.
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### Author:  [@CaptainAwesome](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/CaptainAwesome)
#### Post date: [August 26, 2022, 2:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dungeon-perfect-run/76686/24 "2022-08-26T14:50:45Z")
Would be great, if you could make a screenshot and post it here:
> [@New Dungeon Screenshots & Discussion Thread](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-dungeon-screenshots-discussion-thread/76688):
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> Due to IP2’s programming record, I will be using this thread to post fully revealed Daily Dungeons for the foreseeable future, and welcome anyone who may wish to share theirs in the odd chance that IP2’s randomness is not ‘working as intended’. stuck_out_tongue Not that it matters, but I will also be opening the doors in the same left to right order every day. 1 2 3 4 5 6 blush vulcan_salute
Add your order and dungeon level somewhere visible would be helpful too.
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### Author:  [@Hawx](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Hawx)
#### Post date: [August 26, 2022, 2:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dungeon-perfect-run/76686/25 "2022-08-26T14:52:24Z")
> [@JamesDurning](#):
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> Completed a level 3 dungeon today: got **86** dragonite. Not sure if it’s increasing because of level, or it’s within the bounds of randomness.
This is giving the expected amount 🎉
Lvl 1 perfect run gives 82 and this increases by 2 dragonite per level up to level 20
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### Author:  [@Helvellyn](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Helvellyn)
#### Post date: [September 6, 2022, 1:38am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dungeon-perfect-run/76686/26 "2022-09-06T01:38:24Z")
> [@CaptainAwesome](#):
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> And btw. I love to mock on those kind of people like you just for my enjoyment (and maybe others too).
But you claim not to be a troll 😂😂😂😂
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### Author:  [@Xtowers](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Xtowers)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2022, 7:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dungeon-perfect-run/76686/27 "2022-09-16T19:13:41Z")
Is there any strategy at all for getting a perfect run or is it completely random? I’ve tried the new dungeons several times without a perfect run.
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### Author:  [@NerdieBirdie](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/NerdieBirdie)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2022, 7:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dungeon-perfect-run/76686/28 "2022-09-16T19:37:46Z")
> [@Xtowers](#):
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> Is there any strategy at all for getting a perfect run or is it completely random? I’ve tried the new dungeons several times without a perfect run.
Unknown at the moment. Personally I’m under the impression that it’s entirely random. Others are recording data in hopes that there is a pattern or method.
At very least, nothing in the patch notes alluded to there being any strategies, so in the event a pattern does exist, I doubt it was intentionally created that way.
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### Author:  [@JamesDurning](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/JamesDurning)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2022, 7:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dungeon-perfect-run/76686/29 "2022-09-16T19:44:52Z")
Finally got a 2nd perfect dungeon and it feels so good. 88 dragonite at lvl 4. I don’t remember having this level of satisfaction when completing a dungeon for a long time. For an older player, this randomness is a better experience. 10% is often for it to be rare, but not completely missable.
Not feeling the same way about the hoard mimic.
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### Author:  [@sls](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/sls)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2022, 8:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dungeon-perfect-run/76686/30 "2022-09-16T20:34:48Z")
> [@JamesDurning](#):
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> For an older player, this randomness is a better experience.
I don’t think all older players would agree. Dungeon used to be a 40 sec minor inconvenience for a guaranteed reward. Now I do the same thing for the same reward, only for it to take considerably longer because I’m getting inconvenienced along the way.
Imagine your boss telling you:
“I need you to stay at work for a couple extra minutes every day.”
“Okay? But I’m getting paid, right?”
“Yeah, in lottery tickets.”
“Sorry, what - no guaranteed pay? And the odds of winning are?”
“One in 10.”
“And what is there to win?”
“An amount of a resource which you need to gather for a chance to unlock the grand prize.”
“And the grand prize is?”
“A troop which might not be relevant anymore by the time you can afford it. Which should be sometime in 2024 for most workers.”
“Can I just keep my old schedule and you guys keep your tickets?”
“No, employees are required to work more and must play the lottery or there will be no pay at all.”
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### Author:  [@JamesDurning](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/JamesDurning)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2022, 8:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dungeon-perfect-run/76686/31 "2022-09-16T20:39:06Z")
Of course not all players would agree. Some people like grinding and numbers going up. Does the dungeon really pay off for them? How much incrementally better is it than grinding E12 for that time?
If you’re treating the game like a job, you need to QUIT YOUR JOB. Find something more fun. I can only imagine the addicts coming at me for saying this.
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### Author:  [@sls](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/sls)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2022, 9:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dungeon-perfect-run/76686/32 "2022-09-16T21:11:18Z")
You’ll get no argument from me on that.
I do wonder: Who’s turning the game into a job - the players or the developers? People regularly ask the devs to make it easier to enjoy the game as a game, rather than a job that asks for more of you(r time and money) with every patch.
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### Author:  [@mitamata](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mitamata)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2022, 9:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dungeon-perfect-run/76686/33 "2022-09-16T21:24:30Z")
> [@JamesDurning](#):
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> I don’t remember having this level of satisfaction when completing a dungeon for a long time.
On my first perfect dungeon, which happened on my 33rd try (across 2 account) , I was just angry ☹
> [@Xtowers](#):
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> Is there any strategy at all for getting a perfect run or is it completely random?
I’m one of those who have been keeping track and some combinations seem to come up more often than others. Nobody has enough data to be able to tell for sure, but it does look like it’s not entirely random at the moment. Last 6 days for me, 3 of them had the same layout, which seems pretty unlikely if it was really random. But it might just be that the data set is too small and it will eventually turn out to be random 🙂
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### Author:  [@Kezef](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kezef)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2022, 9:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dungeon-perfect-run/76686/34 "2022-09-16T21:24:45Z")
> [@Xtowers](#):
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> Is there any strategy at all for getting a perfect run or is it completely random? I’ve tried the new dungeons several times without a perfect run.
I spent two weeks logging every dungeon run and couldn’t find anything that began to resemble a pattern. So after yesterday’s run, I decided I was done taking the few moments to log things and trying to tease something out of the gibberish.
Naturally, I got my first perfect run (in 23 attempts!) this morning. Maybe I’ll continue not logging dungeon attempts with the hopes that this isn’t a fluke.
tl;dr? I suspect it’s completely random, or at least an independent “random (or random-like) seed” for each individual player.
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### Author:  [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)
#### Post date: [September 16, 2022, 10:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dungeon-perfect-run/76686/35 "2022-09-16T22:44:55Z")
> [@mitamata](#):
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> Nobody has enough data to be able to tell for sure, but it does look like it’s not entirely random at the moment.
So, how much data is enough data?
I find it common for people to say not enough data to avoid having to think about things and most of those people can never give a definitive point when its enough data. Many times, even the suggested cutoff point where there’s finally enough data is still usually an arbitrary cutoff point at the end of the day.
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### Author:  [@Maisie](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Maisie)
#### Post date: [September 17, 2022, 6:41am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dungeon-perfect-run/76686/36 "2022-09-17T06:41:07Z")
> [@JamesDurning](#):
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> Finally got a 2nd perfect dungeon and it feels so good.
I still haven’t had _any_ perfect runs and it feels pretty crappy.
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### Author:  [@Helvellyn](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Helvellyn)
#### Post date: [September 19, 2022, 8:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dungeon-perfect-run/76686/37 "2022-09-19T20:59:10Z")
There probably is NEVER going to be enough data unless the devs specifically state that they are using corrective RNG based on some mechanism to counteract and balance historically streaky RNG after some predetermined imbalance criteria is met. But that sounds like work which their increased love of random is at odds with. Just pretend you’re playing pin the tail on the donkey and move on. Futile Analysis will only add further time and frustration to your day.
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