# Drop rates of Summoning Stones?

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/drop-rates-of-summoning-stones/32750>\
**Category:** Spoilers\
**Created:** [November 6, 2017, 5:12am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/drop-rates-of-summoning-stones/32750 "2017-11-06T05:12:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2017, 3:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/drop-rates-of-summoning-stones/32750/21 "2017-11-07T15:32:18Z")

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Lol yeah me neither… I think i used like 600 event keys when he was released and i got like 50 gorgothas but no highforge lol… I still dont have him and he is the only non-imp legendary i dont have although i only have one leet lol

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**Author:** ![Ashasekayi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ashasekayi/32/61090_2.png) [@Ashasekayi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashasekayi)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2017, 3:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/drop-rates-of-summoning-stones/32750/22 "2017-11-07T15:33:58Z")

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Yea, it’s odd how you can have extremely bad luck getting a specific card.

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**Author:** ![JordanC17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c67d28/32.png) [@JordanC17](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/JordanC17)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2017, 4:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/drop-rates-of-summoning-stones/32750/23 "2017-11-07T16:22:07Z")

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I only opened 5 at a time, I think I only had enough to open 3 or 4 batches of 5.

This was my first time ever opening these, so I went and opened my other colors with less luck.

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**Author:** ![Nephilim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nephilim/32/29092_2.png) [@Nephilim](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nephilim)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2017, 4:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/drop-rates-of-summoning-stones/32750/24 "2017-11-07T16:41:29Z")

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Just opened 4 blue summon stones and got two legendary troops. I didn’t need them. I was hoping to get merlantis troops.

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**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2017, 5:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/drop-rates-of-summoning-stones/32750/25 "2017-11-07T17:19:51Z")

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Maybe i will try a few of each color… Just to see

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**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2017, 5:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/drop-rates-of-summoning-stones/32750/26 "2017-11-07T17:37:29Z")

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Ok so i opened 10 of each color and got nothing better than epic… My abysmal luck continues…

\*drops to gorilla knees

RNGSUS! WHY DOST THOU HATETH ME???

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**Author:** ![Delinquent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7c8e57/32.png) [@Delinquent](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Delinquent)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2017, 6:29pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/drop-rates-of-summoning-stones/32750/27 "2017-11-07T18:29:09Z")

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I believe they’ve said they’re going to revise them so they are more targeted. I’m holding on to mine for the time being.

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**Author:** ![Taransworld](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taransworld/32/17324_2.png) [@Taransworld](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Taransworld)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2017, 11:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/drop-rates-of-summoning-stones/32750/28 "2017-11-07T23:15:14Z")

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> [@actreal](#):
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> From a bunch of questions in another thread, it has come to my attention that we don’t know what the drop rates are from Summoning Stones.
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> I suspect no one used enough of them to get a decent data sample, but maybe @taransworld, @lyya and their skilled ilk would be able to tell us straight from the code?
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> My guess would be that they have the same rarity distribution as Gem Keys and Event Keys, but it’d be nice to have confirmation.

Hi @actreal,

Sorry it took so long to take a second look for the drop rates for Summoning Stones. I spent an hour or two today looking through all kinds of data files to try and find the drop rates. Chest are very obvious (as you can see from our chest page we have at [taransworld.com](http://taransworld.com)) but this is different. I can’t find the odds anywhere.

This doesn’t mean they aren’t there, it’s just I didn’t find them after spending a lot of time looking.

Sorry for the bad news.  
Taran

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**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 1:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/drop-rates-of-summoning-stones/32750/29 "2017-11-08T01:13:12Z")

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I don’t think they’re present at all. There’s really no great reason for the server to be passing the client the exact drop chances of anything, including the chest payouts – I think they do this so they can advertise the “10x!” sorts of things in the client and that this can be adjusted server-side. Since the calculations are entirely made server-side, there’s no other reason why the client would need to know. In short, I suspect that the exact drop chances for Stones are unknowable outside of data-gathering / statistical analysis. (For that matter, any drop chances that are present in the existing data files may very well be incorrect, since the ultimate determination is made server-side. It’s just a very good guess.)

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**Author:** ![WishKiller](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/wishkiller/32/36914_2.png) [@WishKiller](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/WishKiller)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2017, 5:36am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/drop-rates-of-summoning-stones/32750/30 "2017-12-17T05:36:47Z")

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I still think US as players simply got fk’d again. that is all.

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