# Doomskull denying extra turn **URL:** \ **Category:** Bug Reports\ **Created:** [May 3, 2018, 4:23am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/doomskull-denying-extra-turn/38988 "2018-05-03T04:23:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![LucianDevine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/35a633/32.png) [@LucianDevine](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/LucianDevine)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 4:23am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/doomskull-denying-extra-turn/38988/1 "2018-05-03T04:23:08Z")
**Platform, device version and operating system** PC, Windows 7 **Screenshot or image** ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/b/8/b839ebaa9bfeca87d395e3fd7427e12a2a2f1d30.jpg) **What you were expecting to happen, and what actually happened** I used my turn to switch the doomskull in the far left column with the yellow gem on it’s right. It would make a 4 match yellow and a skull match. This should have resulted in skull damage+5 to the enemies Gorgotha, the mana going to my Divine Ishbaala, and giving me an extra turn. I did not end up getting the extra turn however. The coding is set up, I think, to register the doomskull match first, blowing up the adjacent gems, thus preventing the game from registering the 4 match properly. **How often does this happen? When did it begin happening?** This has happened to me twice, once to a guildie of mine, and once that I know of to a person who talked about it in global chat. **Steps to make it happen again** The bug does not seem to happen when the doomskull is part of the 4 or 5 match, only when it is part of the switch that puts it adjacent to a 4 or 5 match, which it then interferes with. ---
**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 4:45am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/doomskull-denying-extra-turn/38988/2 "2018-05-03T04:45:04Z")
This has also happened to me. Thank you for making a thread with a screenshot. ---
**Author:** ![captain\_video](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/db5fbb/32.png) [@captain\_video](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/captain_video)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 5:07pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/doomskull-denying-extra-turn/38988/3 "2018-05-03T17:07:39Z")
I have seen this too, several times. It is particularly annoying to players who are using gem transformation builds in PvP. A lost extra turn can mean the difference between a win and a loss against meta teams. ---
**Author:** ![Slypenslyde](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/slypenslyde/32/30373_2.png) [@Slypenslyde](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Slypenslyde)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 5:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/doomskull-denying-extra-turn/38988/4 "2018-05-03T17:12:48Z")
Huh, seems like an order of operations glitch. The Doomskull is exploding before the yellow match is processed? This would also potentially mean Doomskulls are eating a lot of mana. The game should _probably_ perform/calculate all matches that are NOT Doomskulls first, THEN explode all Doomskulls. ---
**Author:** ![postscripter8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8491ac/32.png) [@postscripter8](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/postscripter8)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 5:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/doomskull-denying-extra-turn/38988/5 "2018-05-03T17:42:54Z")
Not sure if same, as I didn’t pay much attention, but I think I have missed an extra turn when matching a 5 of a kind laid out like this: :gem_red::gem_yellow::gem_yellow: :gem_yellow::gem_red::gem_red: :gem_red::gem_blue::gem_purple: :gem_red::gem_brown::gem_green: Not sure if skulls were even involved though. ---
**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2018, 12:54am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/doomskull-denying-extra-turn/38988/6 "2018-05-04T00:54:32Z")
My suspicion is that you actually matched the three reds in the middle two rows. It has happened to me many times that I missed a 4- or 5-Gem match because the game moved a different gem than I wanted, and that different gem just happened to make a 3-match on its own. ---
**Author:** ![Dust\_Angel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dust_angel/32/35256_2.png) [@Dust\_Angel](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Dust_Angel)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2018, 6:54am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/doomskull-denying-extra-turn/38988/7 "2018-05-04T06:54:59Z")
I’ve also noticed this behaviour when simultaneously creating 3-skull match with a doomskull and 4-match with ordinary gems. I haven’t encountered this issue with all ordinary gem matches. ---
**Author:** ![Barney\_Stinson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/barney_stinson/32/37796_2.png) [@Barney\_Stinson](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Barney_Stinson)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2018, 8:57am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/doomskull-denying-extra-turn/38988/8 "2018-05-04T08:57:31Z")
i play mercy alchemist hellcat titania and wonder what is wrong, thanks for the thread. i see it this week surely 10x. with converter you have this situation nearly every fight ---
**Author:** ![MatrimCauthon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/matrimcauthon/32/12539_2.png) [@MatrimCauthon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MatrimCauthon)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2018, 11:25am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/doomskull-denying-extra-turn/38988/9 "2018-05-04T11:25:28Z")
I was wondering why it kept dropping my turn, when I’d make a solid 4, but that’s totally what’s happening. \>:( ---
**Author:** ![postscripter8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8491ac/32.png) [@postscripter8](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/postscripter8)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2018, 11:25am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/doomskull-denying-extra-turn/38988/10 "2018-05-04T11:25:48Z")
Well, this may be. I’m still checking this out. ---
**Author:** ![UKresistance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ukresistance/32/7558_2.png) [@UKresistance](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/UKresistance)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2018, 11:58am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/doomskull-denying-extra-turn/38988/11 "2018-05-04T11:58:20Z")
If this isn’t working as designed, then it shows how little they either pay attention or play test the game. ---
**Author:** ![DEMONorANGEL](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/demonorangel/32/41260_2.png) [@DEMONorANGEL](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DEMONorANGEL)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2018, 12:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/doomskull-denying-extra-turn/38988/12 "2018-05-04T12:00:00Z")
Ive noticed a few times i didnt get an extra turn after a four match. now that you mention it thats whats happanin ---
**Author:** ![Namour](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/namour/32/2957_2.png) [@Namour](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Namour)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2018, 12:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/doomskull-denying-extra-turn/38988/13 "2018-05-04T12:00:21Z")
I have noticed 5 matches on the first move not giving an extra turn. No doom skulls on board at the time. It seems to happen with green matches. ---
**Author:** ![HugeOgre](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hugeogre/32/72202_2.png) [@HugeOgre](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HugeOgre)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2018, 9:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/doomskull-denying-extra-turn/38988/14 "2018-05-20T21:43:59Z")
Bump. I have seen this situation with doom skulls many times and am curious what the devs have to say. Is it by design that doom skull explosions are being resolved before other matches? Is there a race condition where only sometimes the explosions go first?(this would be a bug) or should it be by design that all matches resolve before explotions?(if so then is there a mechanism to prevent duplicate mana from the same gems?) Edit: has anyone checked if it matters what gem is clicked first? Moving the skull vs moving the extra turn color. ---
**Author:** ![Taisiakat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taisiakat/32/75810_2.png) [@Taisiakat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Taisiakat)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2018, 10:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/doomskull-denying-extra-turn/38988/15 "2018-05-20T22:52:41Z")
I thought it was just me - since it was happening with Skulls So I stopped doing the combo matches where a skull is involved. There may also be another issue with this in order of execution with Goblins. ---
**Author:** ![Dust\_Angel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dust_angel/32/35256_2.png) [@Dust\_Angel](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Dust_Angel)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2018, 4:52am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/doomskull-denying-extra-turn/38988/16 "2018-05-21T04:52:16Z")
On the other hand, last few days it seems that something has been done about this situation quietly. I’ve been paying special attention and noticing that now you get extra turn when doomskull-involving match explodes the ordinary 4-match nearby. I will observe for some time more, though. EDIT: Upon one day of further observation, I see that (at least for me) the problem has been solved. I deliberately made 3-(doom)skull matches simultaneously with 4-ordinary gem matches and got the extra turn despite the explosion. It was not the case last week, thus, something has been done about it. ---
**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 2:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/doomskull-denying-extra-turn/38988/17 "2018-05-22T14:02:14Z")
It’s not fixed. I just lost a match because a missed 4-match set up the AI for a Doomskull cascade. ---
**Author:** ![Dust\_Angel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dust_angel/32/35256_2.png) [@Dust\_Angel](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Dust_Angel)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2018, 2:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/doomskull-denying-extra-turn/38988/18 "2018-05-22T14:32:38Z")
In that case, it still must be very random. It’s a shame it hasn’t been actually fixed yet. ---
**Author:** ![Psithe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a88e4f/32.png) [@Psithe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Psithe)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 5:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/doomskull-denying-extra-turn/38988/19 "2018-05-26T17:16:21Z")
Got a video of it happening. [Youtube](https://youtu.be/NZLzTWINhUM) Not sure how to embed the video though. ---
**Author:** ![Maxthor2789](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecc23a/32.png) [@Maxthor2789](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Maxthor2789)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 5:48pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/doomskull-denying-extra-turn/38988/20 "2018-05-26T17:48:15Z")
You just confirmed my theory What’s happening is that your extra turn didn’t trigger because of the 3 blue gems match that happened on the right of your screen after the cascade created by the doomskull explosion. The Doomskull match itself had nothing to do with it. > [@4 and 5 matches not giving an extra turn](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/4-and-5-matches-not-giving-an-extra-turn/39884/17): > > If I take a 4-5 gem match and that it cascade and makes more than one 3 gem match, it is still my turn. If I use a 3 gem match to drop for a 4 gems match and that 4 gems match cascade into a 3 gem match, it still count as an extra turn. I make my moves really really fast so swiping speed is irrelevant. I deliberately swipe a 4-5 gem match at the start of the match even if trait haven’t completely finish triggering. I play on 4x speed The animations speed, that can be relevant, compare to the…