# Dokkalfar the ghost **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PlayStation 4/Xbox One)\ **Created:** [May 3, 2016, 9:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dokkalfar-the-ghost/6262 "2016-05-03T21:37:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![anon43026234](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bb73d2/32.png) [@anon43026234](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/anon43026234)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 9:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dokkalfar-the-ghost/6262/1 "2016-05-03T21:37:41Z")
I have find at least 5 of all epic troops in chests except Dokkalfar. I dont even got one! (I have 1 that I bought with glory pts and thats it). Seems unlikely, can someone confirm me he is really in chests? Im on Xbox one, thanxs in advance. ---
**Author:** ![Studs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/studs/32/3498_2.png) [@Studs](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Studs)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 9:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dokkalfar-the-ghost/6262/2 "2016-05-03T21:42:44Z")
I too have this problem and I’m on mobile. I’m convinced his drop rate is lower than the rest. ---
**Author:** ![anon43026234](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bb73d2/32.png) [@anon43026234](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/anon43026234)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 9:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dokkalfar-the-ghost/6262/3 "2016-05-03T21:44:38Z")
Interesting. have you at least got 1 from chests? ---
**Author:** ![Nex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nex/32/3107_2.png) [@Nex](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nex)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 10:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dokkalfar-the-ghost/6262/4 "2016-05-03T22:08:36Z")
I can confirm that Dokkalfar’s in there. He was added to the PS4 and Xbox One versions in January. ---
**Author:** ![Studs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/studs/32/3498_2.png) [@Studs](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Studs)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 10:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dokkalfar-the-ghost/6262/5 "2016-05-03T22:08:39Z")
Nope, 0 ever. He’s the only Epic I don’t have. And it looks like I have about 3 copies of every other Epic, on average. I’m pretty sure it’s just rotten luck, but still makes me wonder if his drop rates are different. ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 10:09pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dokkalfar-the-ghost/6262/6 "2016-05-03T22:09:14Z")
I’m on PS4 and get Dokkalfar here and there in chests. Even got one today to ascend him to Mythic, so I can verify that he’s in chests. ---
**Author:** ![Razzagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/razzagor/32/50037_2.png) [@Razzagor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razzagor)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 10:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dokkalfar-the-ghost/6262/7 "2016-05-03T22:21:53Z")
Got one some time ago on chests, but he seems to be very elusive. Never got another one. ---
**Author:** ![stormbarrier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stormbarrier](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/stormbarrier)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 10:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dokkalfar-the-ghost/6262/8 "2016-05-03T22:22:36Z")
XB1 here. I’ve pulled him from chests somewhat recently. ---
**Author:** ![anon43026234](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bb73d2/32.png) [@anon43026234](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/anon43026234)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2016, 10:28pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dokkalfar-the-ghost/6262/9 "2016-05-03T22:28:13Z")
Thank you all for your answers. I hope ill finally find one. ---
**Author:** ![actreal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/actreal/32/1945_2.png) [@actreal](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/actreal)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 12:03am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dokkalfar-the-ghost/6262/10 "2016-05-04T00:03:00Z")
He’s just your white whale. We’ve all got one. Be happy that yours is such a universally unused Troop? ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 2:46am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dokkalfar-the-ghost/6262/11 "2016-05-04T02:46:29Z")
My white whale is The Silent One. I have 5+ copies of almost every Troop but I only have the one TSO. I even have 2 Sylvasi, and he hasn’t even been released yet. THAT’S how rare TSO is for me 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Studs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/studs/32/3498_2.png) [@Studs](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Studs)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 2:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dokkalfar-the-ghost/6262/12 "2016-05-04T02:56:25Z")
Still, TSO is like 1/10th the drop rate of Dokkalfar! ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 2:58am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dokkalfar-the-ghost/6262/13 "2016-05-04T02:58:05Z")
> [@Studs](#): > > Still, TSO is like 1/10th the drop rate of Dokkalfar! Developers have said the drop rates are uniform though ---
**Author:** ![Studs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/studs/32/3498_2.png) [@Studs](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Studs)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 3:09am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dokkalfar-the-ghost/6262/14 "2016-05-04T03:09:49Z")
I mean bc it’s Epic va Legendary, and yes I know they’ve claimed that. But I’m still not convinced! ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 3:14am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dokkalfar-the-ghost/6262/15 "2016-05-04T03:14:52Z")
> [@Studs](#): > > But I’m still not convinced! ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/0/082db45400fdc0e530b2e6b93894bbd92ec34a8c.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@death](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/death)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 3:44am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dokkalfar-the-ghost/6262/16 "2016-05-04T03:44:30Z")
Venoxia is my white whale. Only have 1 ---
**Author:** ![ibohr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ibohr/32/4367_2.png) [@ibohr](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ibohr)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 4:10am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dokkalfar-the-ghost/6262/17 "2016-05-04T04:10:07Z")
I know that… Lvl410, playing every day since console release, 3+ copies of every legendary, half of them already mythic but I can’t get that damn gloom leaf! But hey, I have silvasi x4, maybe I’ll make an silvasi only def team… ---
**Author:** ![anon43026234](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bb73d2/32.png) [@anon43026234](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/anon43026234)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 8:14am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dokkalfar-the-ghost/6262/18 "2016-05-04T08:14:42Z")
Legendary drop rate are lower than epic. To not have all legendary is more understandable than to not have all epic. Especially if you play the game a lot like me. I guess I can only trust the devs and wait for the miracle to happen… ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 2:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dokkalfar-the-ghost/6262/19 "2016-05-04T14:24:56Z")
> [@anon43026234](#): > > I guess I can only trust the devs and wait for the miracle to happen… Make ablood sacrifice to the RNG God: [The RNG God's Prayer](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/the-rng-gods-prayer/6283) ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Strange](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mr.strange/32/2762_2.png) [@Mr.Strange](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mr.Strange)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 3:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dokkalfar-the-ghost/6262/20 "2016-05-04T15:51:12Z")
The original codebase had drop rates set numerically for each troop. This allowed troops to have different drop rates, and also allowed for errors due to human oversight. With the 1.0.85 update, we changed the way the randomization works to make everything (per rarity level) absolutely uniform. Doesn’t mean it’s not still possible to, for example, have a troop left out of a chest list. But I 100% swear that every troop (of a given rarity) dropping from a given source drops with equal chance. [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dokkalfar-the-ghost/6262.md?page=2)