# Does Manticore have any use now? **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (General)\ **Created:** [September 4, 2016, 2:29pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/does-manticore-have-any-use-now/11845 "2016-09-04T14:29:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Drathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drathas/32/7344_2.png) [@Drathas](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Drathas)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 3:41am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/does-manticore-have-any-use-now/11845/21 "2016-09-05T03:41:00Z")
The mana drain troops I find useful are: Psion Famine Succubus Spider Queen Cockatrice Khorvash For the reasons you stated. Psion, whilst only 5 mana, drains this from all enemies so is more useful. Spider Queen does as many things as the Manticore (Webs, full drain, massive armour debuff vs Stun, 7 mana drain now, Attack self buff) which are just as useful. What set Manitcore apart from Cockatrice, Succubus and Spider Queen was the combination of traits namely Empowered and Impervious and the usefulness of the attack buff on offence and which the AI can’t balls up when on defence. That is why it was being used far more than the other mana drainers which all have the same cost, 9 mana, as Manticore. Also, I believe it having empowered generates the ‘feeling’ that it’s always draining your mana. Edit: Forgot Khorvash and Famine… 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Mekkalyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mekkalyn/32/21868_2.png) [@Mekkalyn](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mekkalyn)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 3:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/does-manticore-have-any-use-now/11845/22 "2016-09-05T03:55:29Z")
Definitely agree with you! ---
**Author:** ![therealwetwilly](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/therealwetwilly/32/4178_2.png) [@therealwetwilly](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/therealwetwilly)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 12:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/does-manticore-have-any-use-now/11845/23 "2016-09-05T12:55:46Z")
> [@Rasper](#): > > I still use it on my attack lineup in #1 slot. Delaying tactic on big spells, stun for lead troops with defensive traits like gorgotha, an attack boost to make skull spam more potent. > > Oh, and it can’t be snared or frozen, so I never lose my skull damage or my turn on skull cascades he STILL is a BRUTAL ultra-rate of the likes of knight coronet in terms of value. ---
**Author:** ![acemec2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/919ad9/32.png) [@acemec2000](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/acemec2000)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 1:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/does-manticore-have-any-use-now/11845/24 "2016-09-05T13:44:59Z")
> [@acemec2000](#): > > Khorvash, famine I’ve not been playing this game long but when I first started out I’m like ok this is a nice game and basically stopped playing yugiho, but after this last manticore buff and what most know what has to be goin on in pvp with a lot of the top 10 ppl most that has to be cheating this game is started to remind me why I slowed from playing yugiho and its banned list, they don’t touch the real top treats like Khorvash, famine who is just really over powered or the cheaters but rush to do something to a troop like manticore that’s only an issue to the ones that want it easy. I cant even get some of them troops that’s really over powered cause I’m low leveled like Khorvash, famine but I have to fight against them at less with manticore I had somewhat of a chance now that’s gone not to mention by being low leveled getting the real high powered troops traits is like almost impossible and I’m not spending money for it so once again thanks dev’s for caving in to all the whiners [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/does-manticore-have-any-use-now/11845.md?page=1)