# Does Honors +10 bonus apply to DEFENSE as well? (ANSWERED)
**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/does-honors-10-bonus-apply-to-defense-as-well-answered/12763
**Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)
**Created:** [September 22, 2016, 2:29pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/does-honors-10-bonus-apply-to-defense-as-well-answered/12763 "2016-09-22T14:29:48Z")
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### Author:  [@efh313](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/efh313)
#### Post date: [September 22, 2016, 2:29pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/does-honors-10-bonus-apply-to-defense-as-well-answered/12763/1 "2016-09-22T14:29:48Z")
I have just fully traited Honor and was wondering if his 3rd trait activated during Defense battles, since that is technically a PvP battle.
I cannot invade myself, SO… if you happen to fight me, could you please let me know if it activates, I would appreciate it! My in game name is the same, efh313.
THANKS! 😉
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### Author:  [@yonizaf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/yonizaf)
#### Post date: [September 22, 2016, 2:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/does-honors-10-bonus-apply-to-defense-as-well-answered/12763/2 "2016-09-22T14:36:10Z")
Thanks for the heads up. If I ever see you in PvP, I’ll make sure to bring an empowered Manticore and stun your precious Honor before its traits get to activate. 👿
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### Author:  [@efh313](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/efh313)
#### Post date: [September 22, 2016, 2:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/does-honors-10-bonus-apply-to-defense-as-well-answered/12763/3 "2016-09-22T14:43:09Z")
Not cool… 😉
Fortunately since its pumps before the game begins, your silly Manticore can’t do a thing about it!
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### Author:  [@yonizaf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/yonizaf)
#### Post date: [September 22, 2016, 3:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/does-honors-10-bonus-apply-to-defense-as-well-answered/12763/4 "2016-09-22T15:33:00Z")
I was kidding, of course. I’m unlikely to notice who I’m facing before the battle, much less change my team for it. If I see your team (or any other traited Honor), I’d be happy to share the results.
But, in case you didn’t know, you can cast empowered troops right after their traits activate, so it’s possible before the enemy gets their traits.
A common example is you cast Dust Devil right away, knocking a troop with Leader to the back, in which case it never gets the Leader bonus. Reference:
> [@Empowered Abilities Can Cast Before Traits Resolve](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/empowered-abilities-can-cast-before-traits-resolve/4772):
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> What you were expecting to happen, and what actually happened? Empowered abilities should be locked down like the board is, until the other team’s traits have resolved and granted buffs and so on. I seem to be able to cast such abilities in advance if I try. What are the steps to make it happen again? Make a team with a Dust Devil with full traits. Go to a Challenge where there is a troop with Leader in front (in this case, ‘Spin City’ - Drifting Sands’ second challenge). Immediately select t…
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### Author:  [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)
#### Post date: [September 22, 2016, 3:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/does-honors-10-bonus-apply-to-defense-as-well-answered/12763/5 "2016-09-22T15:35:46Z")
You can cast _untargeted_ Empowered troops early (Dust Devil, Mercy) but the game will block at the target selection phase for other Empowered troops.
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### Author:  [@Emos](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Emos)
#### Post date: [September 22, 2016, 3:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/does-honors-10-bonus-apply-to-defense-as-well-answered/12763/6 "2016-09-22T15:39:21Z")
I think you can do a test battle with your team (under guild roster menu I think) and you can see if Honor activates.
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### Author:  [@yonizaf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/yonizaf)
#### Post date: [September 22, 2016, 3:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/does-honors-10-bonus-apply-to-defense-as-well-answered/12763/7 "2016-09-22T15:42:55Z")
> [@Lyya](#):
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> You can cast untargeted Empowered troops early (Dust Devil, Mercy) but the game will block at the target selection phase for other Empowered troops.
That is only true for spells that target the board. There is no problem casting early when the spell targets an enemy troop. I even checked just to make sure.
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### Author:  [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)
#### Post date: [September 22, 2016, 3:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/does-honors-10-bonus-apply-to-defense-as-well-answered/12763/8 "2016-09-22T15:44:59Z")
Thanks for the correction. I admit I was thinking Soothsayer when I posted that.
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### Author:  [@kzintiwife](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/kzintiwife)
#### Post date: [September 22, 2016, 3:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/does-honors-10-bonus-apply-to-defense-as-well-answered/12763/9 "2016-09-22T15:46:34Z")
> [@efh313](#):
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> I cannot invade myself,
actually you can… you click on your image in the top right and there is an option for fight 🙂
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### Author:  [@efh313](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/efh313)
#### Post date: [September 22, 2016, 4:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/does-honors-10-bonus-apply-to-defense-as-well-answered/12763/10 "2016-09-22T16:24:18Z")
@kzintiwife
@Emos
To be clear:
I know I can fight myself, I did not think that it would register in the game as a PvP battle and since Honor’s trait specifically denotes PvP, that is why I have not tried it.
Just tried it AND… his third trait DOES activate!
SO what have we learned:
1. Honor’s 3rd trait is confirmed to activate on PvP defense.
2. Fighting yourself counts, at least for traits, as a PvP battle, wonder if that counts for seals too… 😉
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### Author:  [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)
#### Post date: [September 22, 2016, 4:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/does-honors-10-bonus-apply-to-defense-as-well-answered/12763/11 "2016-09-22T16:32:33Z")
Doesn’t count as a PVP battle, thankfully.
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### Author:  [@GemsCollector](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/GemsCollector)
#### Post date: [September 22, 2016, 7:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/does-honors-10-bonus-apply-to-defense-as-well-answered/12763/12 "2016-09-22T19:13:04Z")
> [@efh313](#):
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> Fighting yourself counts, at least for traits, as a PvP battle, wonder if that counts for seals too
For “any battle” should count IMO. The other bonus is for _ranked_ PvP, so definitely should not.