# Do I get random defense wins out of pity? **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\ **Created:** [August 1, 2017, 8:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/do-i-get-random-defense-wins-out-of-pity/28203 "2017-08-01T20:02:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Alkali](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/alkali/32/16151_2.png) [@Alkali](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Alkali)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 8:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/do-i-get-random-defense-wins-out-of-pity/28203/1 "2017-08-01T20:02:43Z")
Hello Since the event started I set a dwarven team for def. I was very uncreative and just put up with 4x Dwarven Miner. I’m level 500-something and my miner is mythic and full traited but still level 1. The stats are: atk 13, shield 19, life 30. That’s a team even beginners can beat since the skill doesn’t do anything dangerous. Yet every time I log in I get a summary about my defense and have the expected losses but also wins. The result of my defense: 19 wins and 45 losses - so far. 19 is too much for connection losses or similar. Also the weird thing is, when I check the log then the wins happened always at the same time… which was when I checked (0 minutes). Even when the attackers were several random people (btw levels are 500 and up). The losses have different time stamps and happened never just when I checked. Weird, isn’t it? And… some I check don’t even have losses in their stats shown. Do I get battle reports for casual battles too? ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 8:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/do-i-get-random-defense-wins-out-of-pity/28203/2 "2017-08-01T20:05:54Z")
Its a known bug. You are getting pvp defense wins for being defeated in casual pvp. A 4x dwarven miner team is exactly what people are looking for in casual ---
**Author:** ![Esoxnepa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/esoxnepa/32/1837_2.png) [@Esoxnepa](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Esoxnepa)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2017, 8:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/do-i-get-random-defense-wins-out-of-pity/28203/3 "2017-08-01T20:37:28Z")
You can also get some wins from disconnects. In regular PvP, if life happens, I’ll just bail form a PvP and accept my opponent gets a free win. Since I’m not trying to hit the top 100 leader board, I don’t lose anything.