# Do anyone know the cost of Emperinas 2nd and 3rd trait? **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\ **Created:** [January 10, 2016, 4:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/do-anyone-know-the-cost-of-emperinas-2nd-and-3rd-trait/2757 "2016-01-10T16:32:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Emos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/emos/32/5163_2.png) [@Emos](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Emos)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2016, 6:17pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/do-anyone-know-the-cost-of-emperinas-2nd-and-3rd-trait/2757/21 "2016-01-10T18:17:57Z")
Yep when you get around to leveling kingdoms go for Karakoth and Darkstone first, it’ll really help out your future. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2016, 6:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/do-anyone-know-the-cost-of-emperinas-2nd-and-3rd-trait/2757/22 "2016-01-10T18:18:48Z")
Cool. Yeah, still so expensive to level it up that I want to cry. Will take a lifetime… ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2016, 6:31pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/do-anyone-know-the-cost-of-emperinas-2nd-and-3rd-trait/2757/23 "2016-01-10T18:31:19Z")
When that is said Ive read that they will take away the one magic from Dark Stone, is this rumors? ---
**Author:** ![MarvelKit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/marvelkit/32/7072_2.png) [@MarvelKit](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MarvelKit)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2016, 7:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/do-anyone-know-the-cost-of-emperinas-2nd-and-3rd-trait/2757/24 "2016-01-10T19:33:55Z")
Rumours, yes. They just changed it to +1 magic. ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2016, 8:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/do-anyone-know-the-cost-of-emperinas-2nd-and-3rd-trait/2757/25 "2016-01-10T20:05:38Z")
> [@MarvelKit](#): > > Rumours, yes. They just changed it to +1 magic. Which was much needed. Devs are aware that magic stat is scarce in the late game, and won’t be changing that one back in a hurry. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2016, 8:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/do-anyone-know-the-cost-of-emperinas-2nd-and-3rd-trait/2757/26 "2016-01-10T20:50:04Z")
I can get the stones in the challenges/Quests in Grosh’Nak? ---
**Author:** ![Emos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/emos/32/5163_2.png) [@Emos](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Emos)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2016, 9:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/do-anyone-know-the-cost-of-emperinas-2nd-and-3rd-trait/2757/27 "2016-01-10T21:04:44Z")
Yes Gros Nak will drop red and brown stones along with the Arcane R/Br but very rarely. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2016, 9:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/do-anyone-know-the-cost-of-emperinas-2nd-and-3rd-trait/2757/29 "2016-01-10T21:06:07Z")
So Emperina needs 12 of those Lava stones? 8 in the 2nd and 4 in the 3rd trait? 😮 ---
**Author:** ![Emos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/emos/32/5163_2.png) [@Emos](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Emos)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2016, 9:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/do-anyone-know-the-cost-of-emperinas-2nd-and-3rd-trait/2757/30 "2016-01-10T21:08:18Z")
It may seem like Mt Everest at first to get a kingdom to lvl 10 buy you’ll get there in due time. Actually it’s best to level each each kingdom to 4 or 5 for the tribute bonuses, then slowly start working on each one. Invest in a good gold generating armor (dwarf is 50 gems, Dragon is ultimate at 500 gems) to speed up the process ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2016, 9:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/do-anyone-know-the-cost-of-emperinas-2nd-and-3rd-trait/2757/31 "2016-01-10T21:10:13Z")
Thanks! Got the dwarf one! 😄 Just collecting gems for the Dragon Armour now. ---
**Author:** ![Emos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/emos/32/5163_2.png) [@Emos](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Emos)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2016, 9:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/do-anyone-know-the-cost-of-emperinas-2nd-and-3rd-trait/2757/32 "2016-01-10T21:12:29Z")
Yep total of 12 for full unlock it’s a lot! ---
**Author:** ![Namour](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/namour/32/2957_2.png) [@Namour](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Namour)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2016, 2:50am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/do-anyone-know-the-cost-of-emperinas-2nd-and-3rd-trait/2757/33 "2016-01-11T02:50:46Z")
@Shimrra - is there an equivalent list of all troop traitstone requirements available? If there are currently 20 arcane traitstone types, and 158 characters, one could hazard a guess that on average any one type of arcane traitstone will be required for 6 different troops. I’d like to be able to see which troops use certain types of Arcane Traitstones, so that I can make sure I save up traitstones preferentially for the characters I like to play with. ---
**Author:** ![Esoxnepa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/esoxnepa/32/1837_2.png) [@Esoxnepa](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Esoxnepa)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2016, 2:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/do-anyone-know-the-cost-of-emperinas-2nd-and-3rd-trait/2757/34 "2016-01-11T02:56:53Z")
So far, it seems like they Arcanes needed match the color combination of the troop. So Blue/Yellow Troop needs Blue/Yellow Arcane Stone. ---
**Author:** ![Namour](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/namour/32/2957_2.png) [@Namour](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Namour)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2016, 3:25am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/do-anyone-know-the-cost-of-emperinas-2nd-and-3rd-trait/2757/35 "2016-01-11T03:25:36Z")
Thanks @Esoxnepa. That looks to be correct. ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2016, 3:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/do-anyone-know-the-cost-of-emperinas-2nd-and-3rd-trait/2757/36 "2016-01-11T03:31:07Z")
There is a list, I made it. [It is here.](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/guide-to-traits-1-0-8/2012/3) > [@Shimrra](#): > > Common Traits > > 1. 10 Minor, 4 Major > 2. 14 Minor, 4 Major, 4 Runic > 3. 18 Minor, 4 Major, 1 Arcane > > Rare Traits > > 1. 12 Minor, 4+4 Major > 2. 16 Minor, 4+4 Runic > 3. 20 Minor, 6 Major, 2 Arcane > > Ultra-Rare Traits > > 1. 14 Minor, 6+6 Major > 2. 20 Minor, 8+8 Runic > 3. 26 Minor, 8 Major, 3 Arcane > > Epic Traits > > 1. 16 Minor, 8+8 Runic > 2. 22 Minor, 8 Major, 8 Arcane > 3. 28 Minor, 4 Arcane, 1 Celestial > > Legendary Traits > > 1. 18 Minor, 10+10 Runic > 2. 26 Minor, 12 Major, 10 Arcane > 3. 34 Minor, 6 Arcane, 2 Celestial ---
**Author:** ![Namour](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/namour/32/2957_2.png) [@Namour](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Namour)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2016, 5:11am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/do-anyone-know-the-cost-of-emperinas-2nd-and-3rd-trait/2757/37 "2016-01-11T05:11:08Z")
Was more meaning something like this (to get a sense of where I may want to spend my limited Arcane traitstones) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/2/27e6712e5541298881a0b224cc39ada3648e2523.JPG) (Apologies if any mistakes…was thrown together quite quickly) Updated to include @Shimrra’s arcane stone count. If I’d known this earlier, I would have spent more glory this week to buy the bundles with Arcane Storm traitstones. At least I can make a better estimate for future weeks! ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2016, 5:21am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/do-anyone-know-the-cost-of-emperinas-2nd-and-3rd-trait/2757/38 "2016-01-11T05:21:20Z")
I can get the totals from that table in 10 minutes or so, unless you’re already doing that. (You’ve put Tauros as Blue instead of Green by the way. And Keghammer as a Legendary.) * * * Done. Attach to your table. **Arcane Totals** BlueBlue 20 BlueBrown 50 BlueGreen 54 BluePurple 75 BlueRed 68 BlueYellow 75 BrownBrown 21 BrownGreen 61 BrownPurple 74 BrownRed 80 BrownYellow 49 GreenGreen 5 GreenPurple 63 GreenRed 86 GreenYellow 43 PurplePurple 3 PurpleRed 65 PurpleYellow 71 RedRed 4 RedYellow 90 YellowYellow 18 ---
**Author:** ![MarvelKit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/marvelkit/32/7072_2.png) [@MarvelKit](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MarvelKit)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2016, 8:35am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/do-anyone-know-the-cost-of-emperinas-2nd-and-3rd-trait/2757/39 "2016-01-11T08:35:37Z")
> [@Namour](#): > > If I’d known this earlier, I would have spent more glory this week to buy the bundles with Arcane Storm traitstones. At least I can make a better estimate for future weeks! Wow, just noticed that I had zero storm arcades, and hadn’t realised they were in this weeks special. So I went in and bought two packs. 🙂 thnx. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/do-anyone-know-the-cost-of-emperinas-2nd-and-3rd-trait/2757.md?page=1)