# Do any of the high level players actually have unbalanced mana masteries?

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**Created:** [August 26, 2015, 7:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/do-any-of-the-high-level-players-actually-have-unbalanced-mana-masteries/374 "2015-08-26T19:55:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sirrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sirrian/32/35758_2.png) [@Sirrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sirrian)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 1:51am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/do-any-of-the-high-level-players-actually-have-unbalanced-mana-masteries/374/7 "2015-08-27T01:51:19Z")

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For any math-heads out there, we use a pretty common diminishing returns formula for Masteries & Mana Surge

```
SURGE CHANCE = MASTERY/(100+MASTERY) 

```

So:

- Mastery 0 = 0% chance
- Mastery 20 = 17% chance
- Mastery 50 = 33% chance
- Mastery 100 = 50% chance
- Mastery 200 = 67% chance

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