# Do any of the high level players actually have unbalanced mana masteries? **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\ **Created:** [August 26, 2015, 7:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/do-any-of-the-high-level-players-actually-have-unbalanced-mana-masteries/374 "2015-08-26T19:55:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ragereaver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Ragereaver](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ragereaver)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 7:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/do-any-of-the-high-level-players-actually-have-unbalanced-mana-masteries/374/1 "2015-08-26T19:55:54Z")
Just curious if anybody took a chance? Thanks ---
**Author:** ![MarvelKit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/marvelkit/32/7072_2.png) [@MarvelKit](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MarvelKit)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 8:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/do-any-of-the-high-level-players-actually-have-unbalanced-mana-masteries/374/2 "2015-08-26T20:10:47Z")
Depends on what you find ‘unbalanced’. My masteries are 99, 99, 100, 100, 100, 99 for blue, green, red, yellow, purple and brown respectively… ---
**Author:** ![Serale](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/serale/32/1081_2.png) [@Serale](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Serale)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 8:29pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/do-any-of-the-high-level-players-actually-have-unbalanced-mana-masteries/374/3 "2015-08-26T20:29:56Z")
@MarvelKit Baka? Haha. I think he means having way more on one than the others. For example 66/103/65/63/66. I think this can´t be done. After a certain quantity of points, the system doesn’t let you choose the mastery to give it more until you have the others mastery closer. Well, I think that’s how it is. ---
**Author:** ![MarvelKit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/marvelkit/32/7072_2.png) [@MarvelKit](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MarvelKit)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 8:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/do-any-of-the-high-level-players-actually-have-unbalanced-mana-masteries/374/4 "2015-08-26T20:42:58Z")
it’s impossible as you say, @Serale. When you choose yourself, you always get the two colors that have the least mastery. Not sure how that works with guild bonuses, though. ---
**Author:** ![Ragereaver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Ragereaver](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ragereaver)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 8:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/do-any-of-the-high-level-players-actually-have-unbalanced-mana-masteries/374/5 "2015-08-26T20:46:43Z")
Well my purple was about 40 when the others were only 10, it worked well when I was a noob due to getting carnax very early. Im about 100 even too now. ---
**Author:** ![Serale](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/serale/32/1081_2.png) [@Serale](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Serale)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2015, 8:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/do-any-of-the-high-level-players-actually-have-unbalanced-mana-masteries/374/6 "2015-08-26T20:51:03Z")
Oh I see. Well, nice to know that, I had no idea to be honest, I never tried since the masteries have their cap, meaning the more you have the less worth each point. Instead of giving you 1% chance it decrease to 0.1% for example. (I dont know the real math but am pretty sure that’s how it works.) ---
**Author:** ![Sirrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sirrian/32/35758_2.png) [@Sirrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sirrian)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 1:51am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/do-any-of-the-high-level-players-actually-have-unbalanced-mana-masteries/374/7 "2015-08-27T01:51:19Z")
For any math-heads out there, we use a pretty common diminishing returns formula for Masteries & Mana Surge ``` SURGE CHANCE = MASTERY/(100+MASTERY) ``` So: - Mastery 0 = 0% chance - Mastery 20 = 17% chance - Mastery 50 = 33% chance - Mastery 100 = 50% chance - Mastery 200 = 67% chance ---
**Author:** ![Serale](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/serale/32/1081_2.png) [@Serale](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Serale)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 2:05am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/do-any-of-the-high-level-players-actually-have-unbalanced-mana-masteries/374/8 "2015-08-27T02:05:25Z")
So it goes from 1 all the way down to 0.3? (The extra chance you get from each point) To be honest I’ve never been good doing math. XD ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 8:28am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/do-any-of-the-high-level-players-actually-have-unbalanced-mana-masteries/374/9 "2015-08-28T08:28:50Z")
My masteries are all within 1 point of each other… I change my team too often to risk having them unbalanced…