# Disregard this pointless thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [October 6, 2017, 9:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/disregard-this-pointless-thread/31225 "2017-10-06T09:16:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 9:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/disregard-this-pointless-thread/31225/66 "2017-10-06T21:08:11Z")
> [@Courtaud](#): > > Does anybody see the elephant in this room? ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/5/8/58e9b1016ff684dea21a4bd9f9e2ffc4fd130d41.jpg) ? ---
**Author:** ![Courtaud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/courtaud/32/20160_2.png) [@Courtaud](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Courtaud)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 9:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/disregard-this-pointless-thread/31225/67 "2017-10-06T21:08:55Z")
Are you winged? Back to the original question: Mab is the seminal case of the modern meta troop. She basically works on her own, no (artificial) intelligence required. So did Famine, so does Kraken, so does Wisp. She works well with a lot of teams, basically I see a lot of teams being rehashed with Mab added at the rearguard. She’s RNGesus gift to spammer teams. She forces you to build your team to beat her and kill your variety of teams. Edit: the pink thing is my symbiote. ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 9:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/disregard-this-pointless-thread/31225/68 "2017-10-06T21:10:08Z")
I had already commented on mab did you see? ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 9:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/disregard-this-pointless-thread/31225/69 "2017-10-06T21:11:49Z")
I also commented on freeze in another thread > [@About those wisps](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/about-those-wisps/30302/57): > > Freeze should just be eliminated as a game mechanic altogether ---
**Author:** ![Courtaud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/courtaud/32/20160_2.png) [@Courtaud](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Courtaud)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 9:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/disregard-this-pointless-thread/31225/70 "2017-10-06T21:13:57Z")
No, I’m translating so I’m slow to answer ç\_ç As for Mab, at the very least take away her recast trait. > [@Vangor](#): > > Freeze should just be eliminated as a game mechanic altogether It’s really challenging, so perhaps not used with an automatic trigger? Automatic triggers are far too thick on the ground lately. ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 9:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/disregard-this-pointless-thread/31225/71 "2017-10-06T21:18:31Z")
I agree… There should be no traits that trigger by 4 or 5 gem matches. ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 9:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/disregard-this-pointless-thread/31225/72 "2017-10-06T21:22:35Z")
We should also nerf aby! One card to both explode the board AND summon a legendary is too much ---
**Author:** ![Courtaud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/courtaud/32/20160_2.png) [@Courtaud](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Courtaud)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 9:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/disregard-this-pointless-thread/31225/73 "2017-10-06T21:22:59Z")
It’s against my interest because I love dragons teams and triggering on 4 matches are their thing. It should be a Dragon thing, like double turn is a Goblin thing and Enrage a Teddybear thing, but if not, at least a Mythic thing. ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 9:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/disregard-this-pointless-thread/31225/74 "2017-10-06T21:24:47Z")
AoE is more a dragon thing but that is OP too one cast to hit all enemies should be 20 mana at minimum ---
**Author:** ![Courtaud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/courtaud/32/20160_2.png) [@Courtaud](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Courtaud)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 9:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/disregard-this-pointless-thread/31225/75 "2017-10-06T21:27:06Z")
It depends how they hit. Drakulis at 20 is infuriating. (20 points with three colours, while Dragons have 2 and fill more slowly.) ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 9:28pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/disregard-this-pointless-thread/31225/76 "2017-10-06T21:28:14Z")
> [@Courtaud](#): > > It depends how they hit. Drakulis at 20 is infuriating I totally agree! Draak should be at least 30 mana cost ---
**Author:** ![Courtaud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/courtaud/32/20160_2.png) [@Courtaud](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Courtaud)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 9:31pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/disregard-this-pointless-thread/31225/77 "2017-10-06T21:31:17Z")
I’m wondering if the next new troop, the Wildfolk legendary, is going to become meta too. It looks quite powerful, power creeping considered. ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 9:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/disregard-this-pointless-thread/31225/78 "2017-10-06T21:33:45Z")
He should definitely be nerfed too! Well spotted ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 9:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/disregard-this-pointless-thread/31225/79 "2017-10-06T21:43:51Z")
![musehale](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/3/5/359865c261b09a607c1dafec7099c2ea151cdb3f.gif) haha Vangor, ure the best! You makes me laugh so good tonight, thank you! 👍 ---
**Author:** ![Maui\_Lion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/maui_lion/32/27515_2.png) [@Maui\_Lion](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Maui_Lion)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 9:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/disregard-this-pointless-thread/31225/80 "2017-10-06T21:44:29Z")
I just wish people would work with different teams. Branch out of the meta and try different things that feel right to them. I’ve put together teams that were just fine, fun, and more than usable. Sure they didn’t win 100% of the time but so what? Fighting the same teams is a chore, especially the devour ones. You can be doing well, then they basically get some luck and bam, insta-kills all around. Why is it that devour is 40% on Kerby and Kraken which work on **any** devourable troop and the “specific” devourers are only 10% more and aren’t as overall useful? I’d knock 'em to 30% since it’s an insta-kill either way, (and people feed them with Giant Spider and Forest Troll which gives extra turns constantly from matches and lets you keep re-trying easily), which makes the specific ones more appealing, and since Death Mark which is also an insta-kill is only 10% but stays longer, it feels…better to me. Less chance of it happening but they try more often with the feeder troops, specific devourers seem more appealing, and Death Mark feels more substantial by comparison. I could be wrong, which is fine, but in the end I really suggest people branching out more. Try new teams. Even if they might not be as steam-roller…-y, I find matches more fun when it’s more back and forth and feels like a good ‘fight’ and I’m using a team that feels more ‘me’ rather than seeing who can devour or get endless loops first. ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 9:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/disregard-this-pointless-thread/31225/81 "2017-10-06T21:47:48Z")
An excellent observation! In fact i am going to advocate for the removal of devour completely! ---
**Author:** ![Maui\_Lion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/maui_lion/32/27515_2.png) [@Maui\_Lion](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Maui_Lion)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 9:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/disregard-this-pointless-thread/31225/82 "2017-10-06T21:52:05Z")
![sigh](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/6/9/69c162b44b3b4863482d4e7b91abaa573b2b545a.jpg) And right after I said that the universe threw this at me. I saw this and literally just sighed out loud. This is a chore. ---
**Author:** ![Courtaud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/courtaud/32/20160_2.png) [@Courtaud](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Courtaud)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 9:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/disregard-this-pointless-thread/31225/83 "2017-10-06T21:52:52Z")
> [@Vangor](#): > > He should definitely be nerfed too! Well spotted Absolutely not. We need another meta, I still meet fancy teams and this makes RNGesus cry. ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 9:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/disregard-this-pointless-thread/31225/84 "2017-10-06T21:54:46Z")
No he should be nerfed for sure! ---
**Author:** ![Taliesin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/22d042/32.png) [@Taliesin](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Taliesin)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 11:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/disregard-this-pointless-thread/31225/85 "2017-10-06T23:35:13Z")
Only 2 of those teams you listed are meta and those 2 teams are the only meta anyone is using. You can go 20 fights without seeing anything other than the kraken and wisp bs meta. This is the first time I can remember that practically everyone in the game has a meta team on their defense. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/disregard-this-pointless-thread/31225.md?page=3) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/disregard-this-pointless-thread/31225.md?page=5)