# Discussion: Sexuality in GoW **URL:** \ **Category:** Off Topic\ **Created:** [September 5, 2016, 8:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/discussion-sexuality-in-gow/11906 "2016-09-05T20:56:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Robert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/robert/32/12802_2.png) [@Robert](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Robert)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2016, 8:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/discussion-sexuality-in-gow/11906/184 "2016-09-06T20:08:06Z")
Can you pm me it? ---
**Author:** ![HKdirewolf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hkdirewolf/32/21614_2.png) [@HKdirewolf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HKdirewolf)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2016, 8:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/discussion-sexuality-in-gow/11906/185 "2016-09-06T20:08:32Z")
Don’t do it. Don’t get Robert started!! ---
**Author:** ![Robert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/robert/32/12802_2.png) [@Robert](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Robert)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2016, 8:09pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/discussion-sexuality-in-gow/11906/186 "2016-09-06T20:09:24Z")
Hey I send you lovely PMs! 😇 ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2016, 8:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/discussion-sexuality-in-gow/11906/187 "2016-09-06T20:10:54Z")
Nobody would like to see the PMs we send each other. We’d scare @Ashasekayi ---
**Author:** ![Robert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/robert/32/12802_2.png) [@Robert](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Robert)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2016, 8:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/discussion-sexuality-in-gow/11906/188 "2016-09-06T20:12:15Z")
Prepare your eyeballs Edit: PM sent 😇 ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2016, 8:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/discussion-sexuality-in-gow/11906/189 "2016-09-06T20:13:55Z")
Actually she MIGHT like that birthday wish I sent to Wolf. @Ashasekayi, you like beefcake? ---
**Author:** ![Ashasekayi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ashasekayi/32/61090_2.png) [@Ashasekayi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashasekayi)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2016, 8:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/discussion-sexuality-in-gow/11906/190 "2016-09-06T20:18:31Z")
> [@TaliaParks](#): > > Nobody would like to see the PMs we send each other. We’d scare @Ashasekayi Challenge accepted! ---
**Author:** ![Robert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/robert/32/12802_2.png) [@Robert](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Robert)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2016, 8:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/discussion-sexuality-in-gow/11906/191 "2016-09-06T20:19:22Z")
@HKdirewolf just said he was going to be sick after my PM 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2016, 8:20pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/discussion-sexuality-in-gow/11906/192 "2016-09-06T20:20:13Z")
> [@Robert](#): > > @HKdirewolf just said he was going to be sick after my PM 🙂 For the record, so am I ---
**Author:** ![Robert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/robert/32/12802_2.png) [@Robert](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Robert)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2016, 8:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/discussion-sexuality-in-gow/11906/193 "2016-09-06T20:21:19Z")
I am so proud 🏆 ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2016, 8:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/discussion-sexuality-in-gow/11906/194 "2016-09-06T20:34:22Z")
For what it’s worth, Gems does skew toward inclusive, raw-numbers wise, with its female population. Out of curiosity, I went through the entire troop list and tallied genders. Here’s what I found: Humanoid, Male: 121 Humanoid, Female: 39 Beast, Male: 20 Beast, Female: 9 Other (Genderless or indeterminate): 50 Humanoids includes all demonic/undead/half-beasts that walk on two legs; beasts covers everything else, including dragons. For purposes of this exercise, I looked first at the card text (male or female pronouns) _but not supplemental material_ like the forum introduction blurbs. Then I looked at the presence of defining gender characteristics (breasts on women, beards/moustaches/manes on men), and finally at facial structure for gender clues. In some cases, especially beasts, it was impossible to tell the gender, so they are marked “indeterminate.” (Curiously, a few troops like [Knight Coronet](http://ashtender.com/gems/troops/knight-coronet) are so heavily armored, and are not given masculine pronouns, so they are also “indeterminate.”) I was expecting a much heavier skew male. A 3:1 ratio surprised me. ---
**Author:** ![LegendMaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/legendmaker/32/859_2.png) [@LegendMaker](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/LegendMaker)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2016, 8:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/discussion-sexuality-in-gow/11906/195 "2016-09-06T20:39:51Z")
@HKdirewolf & @Lyya Sure, it’s still a pretty tame picture compared to other female characters in the game, and the juicy bits are _implied_ rather than _on display_, for the most part. Don’t get me wrong, I wasn’t saying _“Tyri is the worst of all, OMG!”_ I don’t _mind_ her image by itself either, to be clear (as I also made clear in the original thread I also think the Sorceress being overly sexual at least actually makes sense). Still, I was putting this in context with the original point of discussion I had with @Personette. When she originally stated that Hag was the only female character in this game to be fully clothed and whose posture and garments were entirely devoid of focus on her sexuality, my initial kneejerk reaction was to dismiss it and I went and checked the images, one by one, multiple times (along with @Archenassa), fully expecting to come up with _a list_ of other clear-cut examples. Not only did we not end up with a list, we barely had a couple of names, and each with at least one borderline aspect. Between all the girls with ornamental fake boobies on their armor, Ghiralee’s inexplicable straps with a single round button each roughly emulating Bat-nipples, and the very odd way the Priestess’ boobs go well out of their way and super far apart from one another to offer some kind of side show despite her uniform which should completely hide them… Tyri appeared to be an exception, although there was the fact that, for all we knew, her breasts could be completely exposed from another angle and her pose just happens to hide them. So, in this context, being reminded the full version of her picture makes it clear that she was wearing something along the lines of a thong (if not a G-string) anyway (along with a weird magical pouch on her belt ensuring that her butt glows in the dark) was a bit ironic to me. That’s all. ---
**Author:** ![Personette](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/personette/32/3845_2.png) [@Personette](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Personette)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2016, 8:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/discussion-sexuality-in-gow/11906/196 "2016-09-06T20:58:01Z")
> [@Koolbiird](#): > > what is the goal here? Women should not bear their cleavage? Art is an expression of one’s imagination. No matter how shallow or abstract the subject matter. Forgive my ignorance, but I just don’t see the “call to arms” here. Women troops cover all categories and they seem to be more powerful than their male counterparts. I just don’t see it. Every single woman to have posted in this thread has stated, explicitly, that we are fine with beautiful, sexy female troops–every single one. Why are you saddling me–or anyone–with an argument nobody had made? Why are you ignoring what must be, at this point, actual dozens of attempts to counter this claim? Nobody wants a grim sexless gulag. We want variety. That’s it. VARIETY. ---
**Author:** ![LegendMaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/legendmaker/32/859_2.png) [@LegendMaker](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/LegendMaker)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2016, 9:07pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/discussion-sexuality-in-gow/11906/198 "2016-09-06T21:07:43Z")
> [@htismaqe](#): > > Every male figure in this game is some muscle bound hunk. Where are the frumpy fat guys? Why are they never represented? ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/5/5a07de1eb408b31555245329bf488e58cd0e50a8.png) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/f/f379fecbcbecf8a448a39881ac11e85d37d49330.png) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/b/bf9e5c3958b226d83a53b3da1e5014e354ebdf54.png) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/c/c545a9d3d54d8603eefa91dbad6adcf0798473c5.png) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/f/f3cdbbec63a99b116edee02711dac8c6b1ee5375.png) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/8/8d82efae505cd72884f78829866e1df57fea1f87.png) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/d/dfb3d1fecbd562b91335a43f5f3cf75f9427e162.png) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/c/c101cd9793276b40cb3300b4f82e25c63a4f4d38.png) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/1/1c96aaf07641097134ba800fc449d01b7485d717.png) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/5/576f7d4d555b678e2e72323fbe61750f216334ba.png) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/2/2933aa2838f8c18e2fc6e79e39c536f070029f30.png) ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/7/7581442dcd321556ccf5c4c32c8d564ec0355eee.png) Exactly as I expected (even more so, actually), I had the **_exact opposite problem_** while looking for dudes with a regular build as I had when I was looking for girls who weren’t lingerie models: there are **too many of them** for me to all capture. Also a few points worth noting, since we’re pretending like this is in any way, shape of form comparable (or at least you do): **Druid vs Amira.** She has the mandatory big boobs and pronounced cleavage. Were are his partly exposed, totally ripped abs? **Mad Prophet** (and several other old guys, again too many to all capture) **vs Hag**. She’s a walking cliché of ugliness, because _old woman_… (okay, witch, but still, remember what witches look like in the GoW universe when they’re young? ^^). He’s… well, older, but still pretty handsome, and definitely dignified, even classy in a way. Same comparison (even more favorable to the guys) can be made with Tassarion, Alchemist, and more. **Imp of Love vs Succubus.** They’re both basically lust demons. He looks like he’s on his way to the beach (at most). She looks like she works in a sex shop (at best). **Dust Devil / half of Khetar’s troops vs Banshee / Sapphira and more.** No prominently virile features, and not many features akin to a living human being on the male Undead, huh? Female Undead, though? Boobies, boobies, and boobies. With cleavage… So yeah… quite the contest indeed. You’re right, we’ve been unfairly pointing out how it’s virtually impossible to find a single regular or average looking girl in this game, when we could have spent our time insisting a lot more on the fact that, _in sharp freaking contrast_, regular dudes are a dime a dozen in the same game. 'kay, thanks! ---
**Author:** ![HKdirewolf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hkdirewolf/32/21614_2.png) [@HKdirewolf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HKdirewolf)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2016, 9:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/discussion-sexuality-in-gow/11906/199 "2016-09-06T21:11:17Z")
Ayyyy don’t put my dude Dokkalfar in there! Shout out to my dude Killerman! Buff Dokkalfar, now he needs a body buff as well. ---
**Author:** ![Koolbiird](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/koolbiird/32/5099_2.png) [@Koolbiird](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Koolbiird)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2016, 9:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/discussion-sexuality-in-gow/11906/200 "2016-09-06T21:13:14Z")
I just don’t see it. This discussion has run its course for me. I gave a valiant effort to read and learn why there is such a problem with the artwork, and I see none. Only met with crappy attitudes and condescending language. Get off your high horse. It’s freakin’ art. I have nothing else to say on the matter. ---
**Author:** ![HKdirewolf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hkdirewolf/32/21614_2.png) [@HKdirewolf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HKdirewolf)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2016, 9:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/discussion-sexuality-in-gow/11906/201 "2016-09-06T21:14:39Z")
Also I think we as fellas are less outspoken. Exposed abs and “ripped” body doesn’t really bother us. I’ll continue to drink beers and put the gym on my to-do list for tomorrow. Gotta keep the dream alive baby! Nothing short of showing male dongers on the cards, would be comparable to the boobs of a female. Again no one wants to see our nipples. ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2016, 9:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/discussion-sexuality-in-gow/11906/202 "2016-09-06T21:21:36Z")
> [@HKdirewolf](#): > > Buff Dokkalfar, now he needs a body buff as well. Could your salt levels flavour fish and chips for years? ---
**Author:** ![HKdirewolf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hkdirewolf/32/21614_2.png) [@HKdirewolf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HKdirewolf)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2016, 9:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/discussion-sexuality-in-gow/11906/203 "2016-09-06T21:22:47Z")
😂😂 Dokkalfar can’t catch a break. He’s weak in spell and body now. We need Killerman to speak on it. ---
**Author:** ![Robert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/robert/32/12802_2.png) [@Robert](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Robert)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2016, 9:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/discussion-sexuality-in-gow/11906/204 "2016-09-06T21:23:26Z")
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