# Dilemma about Hero

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dilemma-about-hero/23133>\
**Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback\
**Created:** [April 26, 2017, 4:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dilemma-about-hero/23133 "2017-04-26T16:19:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 4:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dilemma-about-hero/23133/1 "2017-04-26T16:19:28Z")

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I have my Hero in my defense team for GW. He has a class I normally don’t want to play with in PvP. And I just feel that Hero is not available for me at all in PvP, since I don’t wanna use the currently class hes selected with in PvP. Also I do not want to change my defense team in GW. So I am pretty much locked…

This is really annoying, and I hope a solution for this will come in the future.

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**Author:** ![Ashasekayi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ashasekayi/32/61090_2.png) [@Ashasekayi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashasekayi)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 4:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dilemma-about-hero/23133/2 "2017-04-26T16:41:29Z")

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> [@Eika](#):
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> This is really annoying, and I hope a solution for this will come in the future.

So much this.

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**Author:** ![beanie42](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/beanie42/32/19802_2.png) [@beanie42](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/beanie42)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 4:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dilemma-about-hero/23133/3 "2017-04-26T16:42:31Z")

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I noticed the same thing. I wanted to switch so I could unlock one of the new hero weapons, but that would mean I couldn’t use the hero for GW (unless I used a class I didn’t want). Makes something that was only occasionally useful even less usable ☹

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**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 4:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dilemma-about-hero/23133/4 "2017-04-26T16:42:59Z")

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Now moved to Feature Requests, it seems more correct. 😛

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**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 4:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dilemma-about-hero/23133/5 "2017-04-26T16:43:47Z")

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So basically you want to use Deathknight for GW but not have to use Deathknight in any other game mode. 😉

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**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 4:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dilemma-about-hero/23133/6 "2017-04-26T16:44:12Z")

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I agree, also now my hero is not available to invade with in GW matches at all.

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**Author:** ![Delinquent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7c8e57/32.png) [@Delinquent](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Delinquent)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 5:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dilemma-about-hero/23133/7 "2017-04-26T17:24:04Z")

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You can pay Gems to switch! 👿

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**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 5:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dilemma-about-hero/23133/8 "2017-04-26T17:25:09Z")

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Pardon mac?

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**Author:** ![Delinquent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7c8e57/32.png) [@Delinquent](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Delinquent)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 5:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dilemma-about-hero/23133/9 "2017-04-26T17:27:02Z")

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You can switch classes as you like with Gems. So pick the class you want while you’re playing then pay gems to switch your class to whatever you want on defense while you’re not playing. I was mostly joking. I don’t know why you’d pay that many Gems to switch your class. Definitely not worth.

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**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 5:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dilemma-about-hero/23133/10 "2017-04-26T17:27:38Z")

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Thank god it was a joke. 😌

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**Author:** ![netwizard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/netwizard/32/35338_2.png) [@netwizard](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/netwizard)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 6:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dilemma-about-hero/23133/11 "2017-04-26T18:50:20Z")

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Same here. Can’t use DK and Mechanist at the same time.

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**Author:** ![Amadan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/amadan/32/7653_2.png) [@Amadan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Amadan)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 7:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dilemma-about-hero/23133/12 "2017-04-26T19:19:30Z")

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Class needs to be exactly the same as weapon - on a per-team basis, and just slotted together with the weapon. It’s one of the major problems that makes the hero cumbersome instead of usable for most purposes.

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**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2017, 9:39am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dilemma-about-hero/23133/13 "2017-04-27T09:39:32Z")

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> [@Amadan](#):
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> Class needs to be exactly the same as weapon - on a per-team basis, and just slotted together with the weapon. It’s one of the major problems that makes the hero cumbersome instead of usable for most purposes.

Agree.

Sadly if this was easy to do, I believe devs would have done it, either early in creating the team UI, or since, given the complaints. I hope moving to Unity allows this better.

I want to use:

- DeathKnight or maybe Archer as a grief defence, especially for Guild Wars, as every bugger I face is doing it to me
- Mechanist for Explore mode when the Snots task needs it
- Archer or Assassin or Sorcerer for PvP

As it happens my hero is stuck as a Titan while I unlock the weapon reward, which makes him purely decorative and not used in any of the above.

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**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2017, 10:18am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dilemma-about-hero/23133/14 "2017-04-27T10:18:39Z")

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> [@Jainus](#):
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> I want to use:
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> - DeathKnight or maybe Archer as a grief defence, especially for Guild Wars, as every bugger I face is doing it to me

Thank God I’m not in your bracket!

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**Author:** ![Whiskeyjack](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/whiskeyjack/32/65850_2.png) [@Whiskeyjack](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Whiskeyjack)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2017, 10:33am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dilemma-about-hero/23133/15 "2017-04-27T10:33:23Z")

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Totally agree, but unfortunately it looks like it needs a lot of coding to fix. When you think about the tabs in the troop menu, plus the way that class weapons unlock, it’s not an easy change for the devs to make

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**Author:** ![Amadan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/amadan/32/7653_2.png) [@Amadan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Amadan)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2017, 2:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dilemma-about-hero/23133/16 "2017-04-27T14:40:34Z")

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I doubt it’s too difficult - it’s almost certainly more a matter of resource allocation. The devs only have a certain amount of man-hours available, and they need to prioritize. It seems likely that nigh-on 100% of those resources were dedicated to guild wars up until now, and it sounds like they’ll be focusing on guild war bug fixes & crafting next.

I’d honestly rather see per-team Hero Classes _first_, since as you mention, lacking them makes Guild Wars a lot clunkier, to say nothing of all the other gameplay they’d improve…but that ain’t my decision to make. ;p

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**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2017, 2:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dilemma-about-hero/23133/17 "2017-04-27T14:43:45Z")

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I suspect the 50 gem change cost was initially part “we don’t want people to give up on this class before they can figure it out” and part “make money of the gem cost to recoup the time spent coding it”. I don’t know how many people actually pay to change their class, but presumably the devs do and they know if it’s worth the time to re-code.

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**Author:** ![Strat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2017, 2:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dilemma-about-hero/23133/18 "2017-04-27T14:44:24Z")

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Liking and commenting to bring attention to this. Even though this exact some thing was discussed ad nauseam a few weeks ago.
