# Devs: Please stop offering me useless deals
**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/devs-please-stop-offering-me-useless-deals/66518
**Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback
**Created:** [October 12, 2020, 6:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/devs-please-stop-offering-me-useless-deals/66518 "2020-10-12T18:34:00Z")
**Posts on this page:** 12
**Page:** 2
### Author:  [@Wow](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Wow)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2021, 3:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/devs-please-stop-offering-me-useless-deals/66518/21 "2021-08-27T15:32:30Z")
Wow, I am jealous of your imperial deeds. š
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### Author:  [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2021, 3:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/devs-please-stop-offering-me-useless-deals/66518/22 "2021-08-27T15:56:32Z")
> [@Fleg](#):
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> An extra stat point is nice but how long will it take to get 30 books at the current rate? 5 years?
Itās not the extra stat point at upgrade level 20, itās the one at upgrade level 15. You either spend your limited imperial deeds upgrading one of your kingdoms from 13 to 15 or upgrading one of your kingdoms from 15 to 16. Very few players have enough imperial deeds to do both.
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### Author:  [@Magnusimus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Magnusimus)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2021, 4:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/devs-please-stop-offering-me-useless-deals/66518/23 "2021-08-27T16:24:45Z")
But the player holding on _did say_ he was holding _because of_ the stat point at 20ā¦
Once all kingdoms are 15 (plenty of endgamers there now), thereās a choice : get additional mythstones, or hold for who knows how long to be able to get the next round of stats the fastest š¤·āāļø
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### Author:  [@Wow](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Wow)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2021, 4:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/devs-please-stop-offering-me-useless-deals/66518/24 "2021-08-27T16:43:05Z")
I thought I can save the imperial deeds too, but PLVL 23 is cursedā¦I canāt deal with ingot/event key offer daily.
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### Author:  [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2021, 6:09pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/devs-please-stop-offering-me-useless-deals/66518/25 "2021-08-27T18:09:42Z")
> [@Magnusimus](#):
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> But the player holding on _did say_ he was holding _because of_ the stat point at 20ā¦
Good point. I was talking about the imperial deed bottleneck around upgrade level 15 in general, I didnāt have the conversation with the other player on the radar.
> [@Magnusimus](#):
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> Once all kingdoms are 15 (plenty of endgamers there now), thereās a choice : get additional mythstones, or hold for who knows how long to be able to get the next round of stats the fastest
There is no next round of stats at the current progress rate, the requirements are way past anything remotely achievable. Which is why Iām currently holding off converting anything in the forge at all. Theyāll probably change the recipes to only require a small fraction of current deeds/writs or introduce some game mode that significantly boosts book/imperial deed aquisition rate. I just wish there was some kind of official roadmap for this game to help us plan aheadā¦
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### Author:  [@Magnusimus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Magnusimus)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2021, 6:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/devs-please-stop-offering-me-useless-deals/66518/26 "2021-08-27T18:24:03Z")
> [@Fourdottwoone](#):
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> I just wish there was some kind of official roadmap for this game to help us plan aheadā¦
So do I.
But because we donāt Shimrra and Fleg are _both_ right: the former says SAVE because every change in the game, generally speaking, rewards people who hold back and have patience, but the latter isnāt stupid for saying SPEND because ā letās face it:
> [@Fourdottwoone](#):
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> _There is no next round of stats at the current progress rate, the requirements are way past anything remotely achievable._
exactly as you say, so if itās ānever gonna happenā (or, at least, not happen until some adjustment āfixesā the problem, as inevitably _feels_ like it has to happen) thereās no real reason to deprive oneās self in the meantime.
For the record, Iām getting kingdoms to 16. Maybe thisāll block stats for me later, maybe it wonāt ā but if itās years away and the gameās still here _and_ Iām still playing, Iāll wait until _then_ to kick myself š
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### Author:  [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2021, 6:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/devs-please-stop-offering-me-useless-deals/66518/27 "2021-08-27T18:27:18Z")
The fact that all evidence points to this (only) being useful āyears from nowā (maybe) doesnāt make things any better. One might question why Iām even bothering to ā¦ anything? I guess just hoping for reasons not to quit. I could make a whole thread about that ā¦ but that also takes up time I canāt be bothered to spend, to say things that Iām ~~already~~ long-past tired of saying, _that the devs clearly donāt listen to_.
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### Author:  [@Wow](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Wow)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2021, 6:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/devs-please-stop-offering-me-useless-deals/66518/28 "2021-08-27T18:32:30Z")
@Shimrra The strategic mastermind please do some strategy to be heard, please. I hate these offers too.
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### Author:  [@BUSCHKA25](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/BUSCHKA25)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2021, 6:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/devs-please-stop-offering-me-useless-deals/66518/29 "2021-08-27T18:50:15Z")
So, I have a question. If you spend/use all of your deeds, then will the system start to offer them?
Because like many of you, I get ingot offers every day and then a hero class or delve cache added.
While I am getting close to finishing all PF delves and getting all hero classes to 100, Iām guessing no worthwhile offer would present itself, even if I finished these two requirements.
Sad really.
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### Author:  [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)
#### Post date: [August 27, 2021, 8:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/devs-please-stop-offering-me-useless-deals/66518/30 "2021-08-27T20:00:34Z")
> [@BUSCHKA25](#):
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> So, I have a question. If you spend/use all of your deeds, then will the system start to offer them?
Unfortunately not. Youāll just be out of deeds without any getting offered.
> [@BUSCHKA25](#):
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> Because like many of you, I get ingot offers every day and then a hero class or delve cache added.
Broken design already brought up years ago by the community. Only reponse we got is that while this might feel bad on a personal level it works exactly as intended. Oh, and they replaced some top end Arena rewards with three extra generated deals that are similarly broken.
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### Author:  [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2021, 7:39am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/devs-please-stop-offering-me-useless-deals/66518/31 "2021-08-29T07:39:16Z")
Well. I got that same event key offer again. Great.
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### Author:  [@Potemkinz](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Potemkinz)
#### Post date: [August 29, 2021, 8:43am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/devs-please-stop-offering-me-useless-deals/66518/32 "2021-08-29T08:43:06Z")
i hope i can get warcoin offers these days
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