# Devs, enough is enough, Communicate!
**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/devs-enough-is-enough-communicate/26797
**Category:** Uncategorized
**Created:** [July 2, 2017, 5:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/devs-enough-is-enough-communicate/26797 "2017-07-02T17:43:18Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Drathas](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Drathas)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2017, 11:20am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/devs-enough-is-enough-communicate/26797/181 "2017-09-23T11:20:01Z")
To back this up, how many Phoenix’ do we see on defence. 😉🙃
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### Author:  [@Trajic](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Trajic)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2017, 11:22am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/devs-enough-is-enough-communicate/26797/182 "2017-09-23T11:22:59Z")
I have seen a few when it came out. Only in PvP, obviously.
… People came back to their senses shortly after. It’s not that hard to tell where North is.
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### Author:  [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2017, 12:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/devs-enough-is-enough-communicate/26797/183 "2017-09-23T12:04:47Z")
I may switch to a Sunbird-centric defense team when I get bored of my current one. I just can’t figure out what to use as the fourth troop:
Gorgotha
Giant Spider
Sunbird
???
Thinking Loyalty to help out with Sunbird. But maybe Mab to take advantage of the explosions/conversions?
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### Author:  [@Trajic](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Trajic)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2017, 12:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/devs-enough-is-enough-communicate/26797/184 "2017-09-23T12:13:29Z")
You could use Queen Aurora if you have one. All colors are already taken, so faster mana helps. Also - it boosts life.
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### Author:  [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2017, 12:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/devs-enough-is-enough-communicate/26797/185 "2017-09-23T12:13:52Z")
Sunbird is not that bad. But yeah he’s not OP so nobody care about him…
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### Author:  [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2017, 12:17pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/devs-enough-is-enough-communicate/26797/186 "2017-09-23T12:17:43Z")
Ya know here is an interesting thing… I keep seeing posts like the one by @Darkness and i am puzzled. I have never lost to a wisp team in my recollection. If i have it couldnt have been more than a few times so i ask myself “Self, are you that lucky? Or are you just that damn awesome?” i haven’t come up with the answer yet…
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### Author:  [@Clark](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Clark)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2017, 12:29pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/devs-enough-is-enough-communicate/26797/187 "2017-09-23T12:29:06Z")
I would say lucky as there is no skill that stops the instantaneous wisp cascade that obliterates your team in a single turn.
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### Author:  [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2017, 12:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/devs-enough-is-enough-communicate/26797/188 "2017-09-23T12:43:15Z")
Wisp is fun to invade with, I prefer double wisp with Kryst and Famine.
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### Author:  [@Darkness](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Darkness)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2017, 12:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/devs-enough-is-enough-communicate/26797/189 "2017-09-23T12:43:47Z")
> [@Clark](#):
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> I would say lucky as there is no skill that stops the instantaneous wisp cascade that obliterates your team in a single turn.
I agree. Beating Wisp teams is about being lucky. It’s about you get the crazy skyfall cascade before the AI can start the Wisp loop. No skill involved.
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### Author:  [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2017, 12:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/devs-enough-is-enough-communicate/26797/190 "2017-09-23T12:46:27Z")
Also try:
Artema
Wisp
Kryst
Wisp
(Abyssal banner)
I like this troop and use him often.
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### Author:  [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2017, 12:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/devs-enough-is-enough-communicate/26797/191 "2017-09-23T12:50:56Z")
> [@Darkness](#):
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> It’s about you get the crazy skyfall cascade before the AI can start the Wisp loop. No skill involved
Thats strange… I dont recall giant skyfalls as the reason i win… Especially since i predominantly turn loose my thunder of dragons on pvp… Seems to me that skillful play with a dragon team can beat ANYTHING…
But maybe you are right @Darkness… Perhaps i am just lucky and i have no skill maybe i am just too stupid to know the difference
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### Author:  [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2017, 12:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/devs-enough-is-enough-communicate/26797/192 "2017-09-23T12:54:05Z")
It’s funny to see that as usual the two same players don’t see what everyone are experiencing.
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### Author:  [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2017, 12:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/devs-enough-is-enough-communicate/26797/193 "2017-09-23T12:54:57Z")
I have lost a few times to Wisp myself, its not as bad as some wants it to be. Feel free to judge me for my experiences, and that they are differently than yours.
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### Author:  [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2017, 12:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/devs-enough-is-enough-communicate/26797/194 "2017-09-23T12:57:22Z")
> [@turintuor](#):
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> It’s funny to see that as usual the two same players don’t see what everyone are experiencing
Would you prefer i lie? Or do you thino i am lying now? I still have a 98% win rate which would be higher if GW wasnt factored in so… Should i just join in and claim that i cant win just to agree with everyone even tho it is untrue?
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### Author:  [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2017, 12:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/devs-enough-is-enough-communicate/26797/195 "2017-09-23T12:57:43Z")
They gonna go on and on until the Devs nerfs it, just wait you shall see brudda! It ALWAYS happens…same story always. Use him to invade with while you have the chance, its a very fun troop to use.
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### Author:  [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2017, 1:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/devs-enough-is-enough-communicate/26797/196 "2017-09-23T13:00:44Z")
I already know wisp will be nerfed as well as any other good troop that comes out ans quite frankly i dont really care… I am just relayimg my experience so the devs have more info
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### Author:  [@Darkness](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Darkness)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2017, 1:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/devs-enough-is-enough-communicate/26797/197 "2017-09-23T13:00:53Z")
> [@Vangor](#):
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> > [@Darkness](#):
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> > It’s about you get the crazy skyfall cascade before the AI can start the Wisp loop. No skill involved
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> Thats strange… I dont recall giant skyfalls as the reason i win… Especially since i predominantly turn loose my thunder of dragons on pvp… Seems to me that skillful play with a dragon team can beat ANYTHING…
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> But maybe you are right @Darkness… Perhaps i am just lucky and i have no skill maybe i am just too stupid to know the difference
And there we go again. Woe is you. The bullies are being mean to poor @Vangor again… 🙄
And yet you’ve sucessfully derailed another topic with genuine concerns about the game again. I must say you are by far the best I’ve ever seen at internet forums at trolling so many good topics into oblivion and still avoiing being banned. The devs must think it’s useful to keep you around so that you can keep distracting the other posters so that much of the deserved (IMHO!!!) criticism that comes their way doesn’t really stick to them…
But I wasn’t trying to say you were purely lucky, unskilled or stupid. That’s what you’re saying about yourself. I guess you know yourself better than I know you… 😉
I said beating Wisp is about luck because that’s how it feels when I beat Wisp teams. With the introduction of the console AI on PC and especially mobile my number of lucky wins (winning because of insane cascades) has increased at the same rate as my number of unlucky losses (insane cascades of eternal AI loops). For me beating Wisp means either I get lucky and the Wisp loop stops quicly, or preventing it from starting by getting a lucky cascade myself.
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### Author:  [@EmsDad15](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/EmsDad15)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2017, 1:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/devs-enough-is-enough-communicate/26797/198 "2017-09-23T13:02:24Z")
Wisp…is sooo wispy…I had a few outbursts playing against wisp. But it has been pleasingly fun figuring out how to dismantle this BS troop.
So go ahead and add a third to the list of players who have no problem putting Wisp out of my wispy misery.
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### Author:  [@Ozball](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ozball)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2017, 1:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/devs-enough-is-enough-communicate/26797/199 "2017-09-23T13:04:49Z")
This thread seems to be getting a tad off topic. The main point of this thread was discussing developer communication. If you want to discuss Wisp please take it to another thread.
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### Author:  [@Darkness](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Darkness)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2017, 1:09pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/devs-enough-is-enough-communicate/26797/200 "2017-09-23T13:09:32Z")
> [@Ozball](#):
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> This thread seems to be getting a tad off topic. The main point of this thread was discussing developer communication. If you want to discuss Wisp please take it to another thread.
I just did that! 🙂
> [@Wisp counters needed](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/wisp-counters-needed/30654):
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> So, apparently there are a number of players that have no problems beating Wisp teams So Wisp-Wisp-Krystenax-Mab and Wisp-Wisp-Kraken-Mab causes no problems whatsoever for them I’d love to hear about your strategies @eika @vangor @EmsDad15 'cause I will freely admit it: WIsp causes me serious problems. I can only beat those 2 teams I mentioned above 60-70% of the time, and I do need luck to do that. Please enlighten me on how to beat Wisp teams 90-95% of the time and I’ll happily join your …
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