# Developer Q&A (20th August) **URL:** \ **Category:** Official News\ **Created:** [August 15, 2018, 8:07am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/developer-q-a-20th-august/44131 "2018-08-15T08:07:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Nullings](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nullings/32/39207_2.png) [@Nullings](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nullings)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 8:26am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/developer-q-a-20th-august/44131/141 "2018-08-21T08:26:56Z")
So Sin of Maraj releases separately? Not with version 4.0? ---
**Author:** ![Saltypatra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/saltypatra/32/59750_2.png) [@Saltypatra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Saltypatra)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 8:28am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/developer-q-a-20th-august/44131/142 "2018-08-21T08:28:05Z")
It releases separately, 4,0 will release later. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![TimeKnight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/timeknight/32/50221_2.png) [@TimeKnight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TimeKnight)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 8:52am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/developer-q-a-20th-august/44131/143 "2018-08-21T08:52:41Z")
Still, some questions are still bugging me. If Apocalypse is not Sin of Maraj, so 4 Horseman and Xethanos donā€™t contribute to Sin of Marajā€™s star level? Maximum stars level of it on next weekly reset is usual 5 instead of 7 stars? Does that mean all 6 Guild Guardians are also not part of Hall of Guardian Fractionā€™s troops? So it still wonā€™t affect Whitehelmā€™s star level? All they share are the same background art? ---
**Author:** ![Ashasekayi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ashasekayi/32/61090_2.png) [@Ashasekayi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashasekayi)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 12:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/developer-q-a-20th-august/44131/144 "2018-08-21T12:38:17Z")
> [@TimeKnight](#): > > Does that mean all 6 Guild Guardians are also not part of Hall of Guardian Fractionā€™s troops? So it still wonā€™t affect Whitehelmā€™s star level? All they share are the same background art? The guild guardians are not in the Hall of Guardians faction. The 4 hall of guardians troops count towards Whitehelmā€™s kingdom stars. ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 1:30pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/developer-q-a-20th-august/44131/145 "2018-08-21T13:30:13Z")
> [@Saltypatra](#): > > It releases separately, 4,0 will release later. šŸ™‚ Will 4.0 be releasing new troops when it hits? Similar to, I want to say to 3.2 releasing? If the beta knows then the community should as well. Since resource management will be needed considering the new kingdom this Friday. And 4.0 coming most likely during the next Raids week. ---
**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 1:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/developer-q-a-20th-august/44131/146 "2018-08-21T13:45:20Z")
Unless dramatic changes have been made since the beta, there will be new troops associated with the factions. ---
**Author:** ![Zeddicus2017](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zeddicus2017/32/44872_2.png) [@Zeddicus2017](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zeddicus2017)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 1:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/developer-q-a-20th-august/44131/147 "2018-08-21T13:55:07Z")
I believe eight new troops hit with 4.0, four for each of the factions, (All seeing Eye) and (Hall of Guardians). ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 2:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/developer-q-a-20th-august/44131/148 "2018-08-21T14:10:56Z")
> [@Grundulum](#): > > Unless dramatic changes have been made since the beta, there will be new troops associated with the factions. Will it be possible to 10 star Whitehelm then? ![Screenshot_20180821-090859](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/4/8/480a969eda9645b50e21292e258cb00523192c23.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 2:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/developer-q-a-20th-august/44131/149 "2018-08-21T14:18:43Z")
Possible? Yes. It might not be easy or likely, but I believe that it is possible. Edit: with the standard disclaimer that there may have been changes made since I last interacted with the beta. (I know the devs have been doing things they didnā€™t let us play with. And I am shocked, _shocked_ by this treatment!) ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 2:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/developer-q-a-20th-august/44131/150 "2018-08-21T14:55:55Z")
> [@Grundulum](#): > > Possible? Yes I feel like if I just use events keys for Sins. Then when 4.0 hits it should be more probable than possible? Not pictured is 500k glory and 20k seals. ![Screenshot_20180821-095200](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/f/f/ff91f54213bbfc164a7febf37964950b8d7bbc24.jpeg) Of course with RNG thereā€™s no guarantees. Keep in mind I can use Ascension Orbs to get one of those hall of guardian troops to level 20 if needed. Just wanted to confirm that the faction troops count towards the overworldā€™s kingdom associated with it. And thanks for your help with this. ---
**Author:** ![Lyrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyrian/32/61071_2.png) [@Lyrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyrian)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 3:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/developer-q-a-20th-august/44131/151 "2018-08-21T15:27:30Z")
They do, as it was confirmed on stream. The 4 troops for each linked faction add directly to troop count for that kingdom. Whitehelm should jump up to 21 troops, which in theory should push the kingdom star cap beyond 10. ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 3:28pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/developer-q-a-20th-august/44131/152 "2018-08-21T15:28:55Z")
> [@Lyrian](#): > > They do, as it was confirmed on stream. The 4 troops for each linked faction add directly to troop count for that kingdom. Thanks. I was having internet issues until the ā€œfree for allā€ so the audio was super laggy for most of the stream. Havenā€™t had a chance to rewatch it. ---
**Author:** ![DEMONorANGEL](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/demonorangel/32/41260_2.png) [@DEMONorANGEL](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DEMONorANGEL)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 3:31pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/developer-q-a-20th-august/44131/153 "2018-08-21T15:31:31Z")
Whitehelm with maxed faction troops is 12\* ---
**Author:** ![Querne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/querne/32/44753_2.png) [@Querne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Querne)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 5:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/developer-q-a-20th-august/44131/155 "2018-08-21T17:03:05Z")
Thanks for (re-)posting, was exactly my thought during the Q&A. ---
**Author:** ![Avathar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/avathar/32/33071_2.png) [@Avathar](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Avathar)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 7:37am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/developer-q-a-20th-august/44131/156 "2018-08-22T07:37:36Z")
If the devs needed additional motivation to nerf LTs, you just provided itā€¦ šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 1:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/developer-q-a-20th-august/44131/157 "2018-08-22T13:46:13Z")
> [@Avathar](#): > > If the devs needed additional motivation to nerf LTs, you just provided itā€¦ Changing legendary tasks wonā€™t stop me from hoarding resources. Itā€™ll just cause more players to quit the game. My Avatar says ā€œno to nerfsā€. If pictures matter, then my Avatar should balance it out. I should not be representative of what normal players get or have. Also, within 2 weeks all of those keys will be gone. ---
**Author:** ![Sheba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sheba/32/45190_2.png) [@Sheba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sheba)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 3:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/developer-q-a-20th-august/44131/158 "2018-08-22T15:27:21Z")
You know, I did wonder what your avatar was supposed to sayā€¦ because even when clicking on it, thereā€™s no way to read ā€œnerfsā€ there. It just says ā€œERā€. šŸ˜› Might want to fix to convey the message correctly. ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 3:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/developer-q-a-20th-august/44131/159 "2018-08-22T15:39:43Z")
> [@Sheba](#): > > You know, I did wonder what your avatar was supposed to sayā€¦ because even when clicking on it, thereā€™s no way to read ā€œnerfsā€ there. It just says ā€œERā€. šŸ˜› Might want to fix to convey the message correctly Nah, itā€™s working as intended. šŸ˜œ ---
**Author:** ![Sheba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sheba/32/45190_2.png) [@Sheba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sheba)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 3:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/developer-q-a-20th-august/44131/160 "2018-08-22T15:53:26Z")
So people might imagine it says ā€œwienerā€, ā€œherpā€, ā€œbunnersā€ or ā€œspiderā€? Well, works for me. Bunner.šŸ‡ ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 3:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/developer-q-a-20th-august/44131/161 "2018-08-22T15:56:43Z")
> [@Sheba](#): > > So people might imagine it says ā€œwienerā€, ā€œherpā€, ā€œbunnersā€ or ā€œspiderā€? Well, works for me. > Bunner.šŸ‡ Iā€™m anti all those things. JKā€¦spiders are okay. šŸ˜œ [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/developer-q-a-20th-august/44131.md?page=7) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/developer-q-a-20th-august/44131.md?page=9)