# Dev Q & A (3.5 Update, Monday 2/7/18) **URL:** \ **Category:** Official News\ **Created:** [June 25, 2018, 12:51am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dev-q-a-3-5-update-monday-2-7-18/41560 "2018-06-25T00:51:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Clark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/clark/32/29631_2.png) [@Clark](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Clark)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 3:45am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dev-q-a-3-5-update-monday-2-7-18/41560/162 "2018-07-03T03:45:27Z")
#DropThe50 lives on. ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 3:46am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dev-q-a-3-5-update-monday-2-7-18/41560/163 "2018-07-03T03:46:50Z")
> [@Clark](#): > > #DropThe50 lives on. #endTHE50fee šŸ˜€ ---
**Author:** ![KYLENATOR001](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kylenator001/32/33983_2.png) [@KYLENATOR001](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/KYLENATOR001)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 3:54am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dev-q-a-3-5-update-monday-2-7-18/41560/164 "2018-07-03T03:54:12Z")
Honestly, when it comes down to it, repeated issues brought up with stuff like the class change fee is a catch 22. It seems that you guys arenā€™t allowed to say much which causes many to assume the worst. If you do say something lije it wonā€™t be changed, it either confirms suspicions of you guys supposedly being greedy. The only other options are to throw publishers under the bus or be like, eh we thought it wasnā€™t important and repeat that whole console justice league debacle. I personally enjoyed what I caught as my guild was doing GW at the time, but a well rounded Q&A on the future, vague rework hints, and lore (some possibly nsfw and Iā€™m not apologizing). The problem is the tougher questions get swept away for multiple, quite arguably good reasons. BUT, there is no real outlet that seems to be a real discussion on improving it as feedback threads seem to mostly just meanders and rarely seems to get its desired effects on issues, or at least in a timely manner I suppose. There is no real discussion on shop improvements and as weā€™ve said, the shop is outdated and overpriced. Creating artificial gem demand is not the way to effectively increase gem purchases, or at least without pissing off veterans and getting shallower players who just pay to win that crave f2p models. I personally think the path to glory 2 should be a guarantee for a new mythic during the introduction week. I mean itā€™s not like mythics comes out once a month, thatā€™d be crazy. Either way, TLDR: we need either a thread meant for the tough questions and straight to the point answers so that people donā€™t get upset at the lack of ā€œanswersā€. When the dead horse is instead given an off screen burial it sucks, because then we gotta dig it back up or use the necronomicon which on occasion accidently opens a portal to hell. The last time it happened we accidently made a super demon bear and thank god no pigs were involved in that chimera creation. ---
**Author:** ![Lyrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyrian/32/61071_2.png) [@Lyrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyrian)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 3:57am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dev-q-a-3-5-update-monday-2-7-18/41560/165 "2018-07-03T03:57:31Z")
> [@awryan](#): > > Dead horses are cheaper than 50 gems. šŸ˜€ [https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExYnNvaDQwZmVnYXU5ZmJxN3B4NWFyOWk4ZDN4c2I4czU1MzNiNzA5MSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/y7kvOYLzas6Ag/giphy-downsized-large.gif(image larger than 4 MB)](https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExYnNvaDQwZmVnYXU5ZmJxN3B4NWFyOWk4ZDN4c2I4czU1MzNiNzA5MSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/y7kvOYLzas6Ag/giphy-downsized-large.gif) Wellā€¦ carry on then. ---
**Author:** ![Saltypatra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/saltypatra/32/59750_2.png) [@Saltypatra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Saltypatra)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 4:04am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dev-q-a-3-5-update-monday-2-7-18/41560/166 "2018-07-03T04:04:02Z")
@KYLENATOR001 Unfortunately that is unlikely to happen. If we arenā€™t speaking about something, it is usually because we canā€™t. As such, your proposed solution isnā€™t viable. ā˜¹ For some further transparency, there are some instances (though they are very few, to be clear) where I wonā€™t answer a question that I can. This is due to the fact that we have been attacked for far less in the past, receiving death threats, being doxxed and being repeatedly harassed as a result. If this was less of a viable fear, there is the slight chance that I would speak further on some perceived issues, but as it stands it can often be too dangerous for me to do so when players may not like our reasoning. ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 4:05am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dev-q-a-3-5-update-monday-2-7-18/41560/167 "2018-07-03T04:05:49Z")
Never understood people sending death threat for a f2p game. Man your life must be miserable to do something stupid like this ---
**Author:** ![KYLENATOR001](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kylenator001/32/33983_2.png) [@KYLENATOR001](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/KYLENATOR001)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 4:09am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dev-q-a-3-5-update-monday-2-7-18/41560/168 "2018-07-03T04:09:38Z")
Me either, I think people can generally be too quick to anger and either donā€™t think or care about their actions. I can understand frustration, but actually threatening others like that is lower than low. ---
**Author:** ![Lyrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyrian/32/61071_2.png) [@Lyrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyrian)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 4:23am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dev-q-a-3-5-update-monday-2-7-18/41560/169 "2018-07-03T04:23:09Z")
Sadly, the anonymity that the Internet can provide for people can be rather empowering for some people for all the wrong reasons. And, yeah, the devs have been previously attacked openly on the forums for past decisions. Itā€™s one of the reasons that the devs are much more reserved nowadays in openly speaking about game logic and internal gameplay decisions, for exactly the reasons Salty describes. From the forum archives, when this happened in the pastā€¦ > [@Devs, enough is enough, Communicate!](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/devs-enough-is-enough-communicate/26797/13): > > **2. There is a darker side to this answer.** Both Nimhain and myself stepped back from the forums when we realised that it was impacting our work, not only due to time, but due to the amount of _abuse & harrassment_ we would encounter on a daily basis. In all honesty, you get accustomed to a certain amount mud being thrown your way in a public-facing roleā€¦ as far as Iā€™m concerned, @Saltypatra is a saint for taking some of this stuff in her stride and keeping on movingā€¦ Iā€™m not kidding when I say that a week wouldnā€™t very often go by when someone doesnā€™t threaten me, and itā€™s not good, but you put up with it. > > HOWEVER, during the Guild Wars preview, I received over 15 Death Threats in 3 weeks, I had my personal information published online, I had some pretty bad experiences on linked-in and social media, and discourse, and even my emailā€¦ and some of the descriptions of what would be done to me and exactly WHEN they would be done, and where, were disturbing. Iā€™m not easily disturbed, but a part of my mind started wondering ā€œwhat if there _is_ a crazy person out there?ā€ > > At this point, I realised that, yes, this level of abuse WAS affecting my work. I canā€™t have that happen reallyā€¦ Iā€™ve got a lot of stuff to get doneā€¦ so it was time to take a step back. > > Now I KNOW most of you here are good folk, who are probably a little horrified about what I just shared, but as always, I wanted to be totally honest with you. All I can say is that, I AM actually really sorry I canā€™t hang out moreā€¦ the mostly fine folk are not the problem and I really enjoyed discussing things with you! Butā€¦ EVEN IF I had time, the emotional toll of trying to discuss things as a game dev in a game forum, while being subject to all kinds of abuse, just affects the quailty of your work. Thatā€™s a sad reality of the internetā€¦ we make an awesome thing for sharing thoughts and ideas, and a small number of crazy people can wreck it for us. ---
**Author:** ![GreyFox474](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c77e96/32.png) [@GreyFox474](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/GreyFox474)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 5:01am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dev-q-a-3-5-update-monday-2-7-18/41560/170 "2018-07-03T05:01:29Z")
Oh boy, Itā€™s not even 7 am and I already feel bad. I know my wording can be harsh at times and **I apologize If anyone felt personally attacked**. That was not my intention. And please, keep doing the Q&As. I was not disappointed with the _amount_ of questions, only with the answers. I feel they all boiled down to ā€œIt will get better in the futureā€ and I have heard all that before with different games and different companies only to see those games get worse with every update. **I love the game at its core. I just donā€™t want to see it getting bloated with game decissions driven by greed.** ---
**Author:** ![GreyFox474](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c77e96/32.png) [@GreyFox474](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/GreyFox474)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 5:10am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dev-q-a-3-5-update-monday-2-7-18/41560/171 "2018-07-03T05:10:30Z")
> [@Lyrian](#): > > The question on trading between human kingdoms was specifically asked in the question collection thread, It was selected because the devs wanted to answer some non-techincal questions on-stream, as it was **literally** the only lore question asked in the entire thread. Thereā€™s no animosity there by the devs at all. Well, the fact that this was the only lore question shows that lore is not what people want to know about when there are so many problems with technical or gameplay mechanics. Why shoehorn it in when this time could have been used to better adress concerns about recent design decissions? ---
**Author:** ![Sheba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sheba/32/45190_2.png) [@Sheba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sheba)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 5:21am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dev-q-a-3-5-update-monday-2-7-18/41560/172 "2018-07-03T05:21:49Z")
> [@GreyFox474](#): > > Well, the fact that this was the only lore question shows that lore is not what people want to know about when there are so many problems with technical or gameplay mechanics. No, the reason it was the only lore question is because people got attacked for asking lore questions in the past and ā€œtaking up valuable timeā€. It was mentioned in this monthā€™s Q&A question collecting thread again that some people were hoping that people would not ask about stuff like that. Because, you know, if it doesnā€™t interest you personally, other people are seemingly not allowed to be interested in it.šŸ™„ I used to ask a TON of lore questions/silly questions. I dropped it because I got hate because of it. Last month, I dared to ask _one_ silly question which I even put into a separate post from the normal questions so that no one could claim Iā€™m trying to get likes for the ā€œnormalā€ questions to sneak the silly one in. And still I got called out for it in _this monthā€™s thread_ when I hadnā€™t even posted anything there. So yes, you ask questions people find ā€œsillyā€ or ā€œuninterestingā€, you are a monster and will be called out for it by those who donā€™t agree. And also be called a few not-so-nice-things on top if it, if youā€™re not lucky. I didnā€™t get any death threats, but it was still pretty bad and maybe I just lucked out on the death threats because no one wants to come over to Germany. šŸ˜› Iā€™ve been sick of the hate, so I stopped asking. Razzagor dared this month, now he gets the lashback. Hope itā€™s not as bad as the stuff I got. ---
**Author:** ![GreyFox474](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c77e96/32.png) [@GreyFox474](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/GreyFox474)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 5:25am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dev-q-a-3-5-update-monday-2-7-18/41560/173 "2018-07-03T05:25:56Z")
Oh boy, I didnā€™t realize this community can be that toxic. šŸ˜„ ---
**Author:** ![Saltypatra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/saltypatra/32/59750_2.png) [@Saltypatra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Saltypatra)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 5:26am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dev-q-a-3-5-update-monday-2-7-18/41560/174 "2018-07-03T05:26:58Z")
@Sheba is correct. @GreyFox474 lore questions are actually quite popular. However, some people get upset when we answer them over other questions. To us, they are just as valid as any other question. Some players are more interested in the lore than mechanic specifics. ---
**Author:** ![Sheba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sheba/32/45190_2.png) [@Sheba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sheba)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 5:44am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dev-q-a-3-5-update-monday-2-7-18/41560/175 "2018-07-03T05:44:35Z")
Itā€™s just two or three people, really. And itā€™s always like that everywhere on the internet. It used to bother me, but ever since I started hanging out in international forums where most people are from the US and I am separated from them by an ocean, Iā€™ve gotten more relaxed when it comes to being called horrible things. And if someone ever really wants to find out where I live, charter a plane and fly all the way to Germany to murder me because I asked questions about chinchillas (which were originally asked by someone else) or lore about Khorvashā€™s Manticore or Fizzbang (which had both been subjects of pretty long lore threads here in the forums) for clarification, then well, that says a lot about that person. Just checking this thread carefully here about who/how many people either tried to get others to ask only specific stuff or, after the stream, complained that their own, specific question wasnā€™t answered (clearly rendering the stream useless), you might be able to read between the lines a bit of what kind of PMs people might get (not by the same people, by the way). Also honestly, I always tried to phrase my questions in a way that, when possible, there was a chance to make it into a real ā€œimportantā€ answer. Most people here know I like bunnies, so me asking a long time ago in stream why we donā€™t have a bunny kingdom was misunderstood (because of question length; I was told before my questions were too long) as ā€œSheba feels entitled to demand kingdomsā€. Which is nonsense. While of course I would love a bunny kingdom, I am actually wondering both lore- and design-wise why, for example, bears, cats, birds and (sorta) goats were chosen to get their own kingdoms, but not other animals and instead we have by now two dwarven and a ton of elven kingdoms. The old Q&A system kind of made asking questions difficult, actually - as soon as your question got too long so that reading it out on stream would be bothersome, Salty shortened it (for good reason; once a longer one made it in and wow, that was a trainwreck to follow); same with chat questions asked directly in stream. This sometimes led to lore questions/silly questions losing the actual reason why they were asked, making them partially also more uninteresting. The Khorvash-Manticore-Question was one of those; it originated from a thread where people were discussing if its horn was a nose horn or just an odd part of the wing being visible, with also people expressing they wished they could have the ā€œrhinoā€ (šŸ˜› ) as a mount and that mounts, like in Puzzle Quest, were a thing. I managed to get the lore question to clear the nose-horn-issue in and Nimhain also told us that itā€™s a special Manticore just for Khorvash, but due to the nature of short questions/people spamming more and more questions in chat, she and I couldnā€™t get the curve to ask about mounts. And so, I got hate for asking a ā€œuseless question which had been discussed on the forum alreadyā€ because my "Does Khorvashā€™s Manticore have a nose horn and can we ride it one day as a mount? šŸ˜› " got made into ā€œIs it a nose horn?ā€ and while the answer ā€œItā€™s a nose horn and itā€™s just for Khorvashā€ is an indirect ā€œNo mountsā€, I donā€™t think people got that since Salty cut that part when reading it on stream. Thatā€™s how the story goes, or at least how I recall it. Been like 8 months. ---
**Author:** ![en9nhcet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/en9nhcet/32/1673_2.png) [@en9nhcet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/en9nhcet)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 6:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dev-q-a-3-5-update-monday-2-7-18/41560/176 "2018-07-03T06:55:31Z")
this is how i imagine death threats going down is ausā€¦ ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/f/c/fc8b6a2d15d8a03e12d7f47017065e63d73e2e5c.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 7:06am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dev-q-a-3-5-update-monday-2-7-18/41560/177 "2018-07-03T07:06:18Z")
The issue with this streaming was the small amount of time for questions on any themesā€¦ The other issue was that Salty moved to this format (i.e. focus on one aspect, 3.5 patch for example) because the same questions were always asked. But still, the question about Treasure Hunt was again askedā€¦ Every Q&A we get this question, with the same answerā€¦ šŸ™„ ---
**Author:** ![Saltypatra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/saltypatra/32/59750_2.png) [@Saltypatra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Saltypatra)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 7:12am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dev-q-a-3-5-update-monday-2-7-18/41560/178 "2018-07-03T07:12:32Z")
Hence why I will stop asking it from now on. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 9:45am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dev-q-a-3-5-update-monday-2-7-18/41560/179 "2018-07-03T09:45:15Z")
On the other side, Sirrian said that he didnā€™t see good suggestions about Tresaure Hunt on the forumā€¦ You shouldnā€™t open a new topic about that? Or was it about new Mythic tri-color weaponā€™s name? ---
**Author:** ![Whiskeyjack](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/whiskeyjack/32/65850_2.png) [@Whiskeyjack](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Whiskeyjack)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 10:22am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dev-q-a-3-5-update-monday-2-7-18/41560/180 "2018-07-03T10:22:01Z")
I asked the lore question because Salty asked for some fun questions. Iā€™m glad it got answered. Personally I enjoy the story elements of RPGs and Iā€™ve played GoW long enough to know that game mechanic changes donā€™t happen overnight. I left the game and came back, and Iā€™m at peace with how it is right now. At the end of the day, Salty and IP2 run the Q&A, theyā€™ll ask and answer whatever they want to, and itā€™s not a democracy. Salty was very clear that they werenā€™t going to discuss the gem fee. 100 grown adults crying about it before the Q&A didnā€™t change that, and the same people seem surprised that Salty did exactly what she said she was going do. Edit: it may have been the only lore question but it got a fair number of likes. ---
**Author:** ![Whiskeyjack](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/whiskeyjack/32/65850_2.png) [@Whiskeyjack](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Whiskeyjack)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 10:26am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dev-q-a-3-5-update-monday-2-7-18/41560/181 "2018-07-03T10:26:38Z")
> [@Saltypatra](#): > > Please send us some fun stuff mixed in with the more serious nitty gritty. Btw if you canā€™t meet the brief, donā€™t be surprised that your question didnā€™t get answered [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dev-q-a-3-5-update-monday-2-7-18/41560.md?page=8) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/dev-q-a-3-5-update-monday-2-7-18/41560.md?page=10)