# Delves: Strategies, tactics and tips

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/delves-strategies-tactics-and-tips/45522>\
**Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\
**Created:** [September 8, 2018, 8:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/delves-strategies-tactics-and-tips/45522 "2018-09-08T20:01:37Z")\
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**Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 6:58am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/delves-strategies-tactics-and-tips/45522/1062 "2019-04-18T06:58:42Z")

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> [@Shimrra](#):
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> I don’t think she summons herself, that spell description is pretty erroneous if that’s the case.

A global change that was made to summoners a while back was that no summoner that pulls from a kingdom or troop type pool can summon themselves. The same applies to, say, Goblin King or Hyndla Frostcrown and a ton of other things with the same spell description, because it is just a global rule for how these types of summons work.

Found it, version 3.0:

> [@3.0 Patch Notes](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/3-0-patch-notes/21925/1):
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> **Balance Changes**
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> - Summoning a Troop type or Kingdom type (upcoming event troop), will not summon the Summoner. Eg. Kruarg can’t summon another Kruag. This also affects transforming troops like Baby Dragon (no more Baby Dragons transforming into Baby Dragons).

If Vanya _could_ summon Vanya, it would most likely be considered a bug.

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