# Delves: Strategies, tactics and tips **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (General)\ **Created:** [September 8, 2018, 8:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/delves-strategies-tactics-and-tips/45522 "2018-09-08T20:01:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![TimeKnight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/timeknight/32/50221_2.png) [@TimeKnight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TimeKnight)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 2:31pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/delves-strategies-tactics-and-tips/45522/143 "2018-09-11T14:31:24Z")
> [@TimeKnight](#): > > - Intense math to determine whatever is it worth to finish all reward stages. > - More math to decide the minimum Tiers needed to do it. > - Great debate about the best strategy to do that without effecting usual Underworld progress too much. Just finish all the reward stages, so I’ll try my best to answer my own question. 1. Worth to do it? **Yes**. so many Shards and Treasures, with extra Vault Key, Diamonds, and 2 Minor Chaos Orb. 2. Minimum Tier? **Just 2 (90 gems)** Except you need a new weapon, then go for it. 3. Best Strategy? **Clear all stage until level 100, then stop.** Use your best team for it. In actual Underworld, it’s easy enough to farming for end-gamers and doing fraction challenge. > **More detail and screenshot here** > > > [@Faction Event: All-Seeing Eye](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/faction-event-all-seeing-eye/45701/101): > > > > Just finish all the reward stages. So far found 3 Valravens. ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 3:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/delves-strategies-tactics-and-tips/45522/144 "2018-09-11T15:15:00Z")
So the faction event don’t have solid block? Is it a bug? ---
**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 3:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/delves-strategies-tactics-and-tips/45522/145 "2018-09-11T15:23:14Z")
_Shhhhhhh!_ \*waves arms frantically\* ---
**Author:** ![Bafometos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9a28c/32.png) [@Bafometos](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Bafometos)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 3:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/delves-strategies-tactics-and-tips/45522/146 "2018-09-11T15:57:58Z")
2 times in a row I went for a 90% quality chance and lost. Never managed to get quality increase except 100% situations. Is it a bug? ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 4:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/delves-strategies-tactics-and-tips/45522/147 "2018-09-11T16:08:13Z")
I would say no just very unlucky ---
**Author:** ![Ashasekayi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ashasekayi/32/61090_2.png) [@Ashasekayi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashasekayi)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 4:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/delves-strategies-tactics-and-tips/45522/148 "2018-09-11T16:18:59Z")
> [@Bafometos](#): > > 2 times in a row I went for a 90% quality chance and lost. Never managed to get quality increase except 100% situations. Is it a bug? On one of Tacet’s streams, he was able to get “very” lucky and get a quality upgrade with far less than 90%. You just had bad luck. This is why I don’t bother with the RNG and only do it at 100% until I max quality. ---
**Author:** ![mitamata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mitamata/32/10313_2.png) [@mitamata](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mitamata)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 4:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/delves-strategies-tactics-and-tips/45522/149 "2018-09-11T16:21:56Z")
I saw the blocks on the second round, but not on the first. ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 4:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/delves-strategies-tactics-and-tips/45522/150 "2018-09-11T16:27:05Z")
Well i did 5 run and never saw them ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 4:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/delves-strategies-tactics-and-tips/45522/151 "2018-09-11T16:40:00Z")
> [@Ashasekayi](#): > > On one of Tacet’s streams, he was able to get “very” lucky and get a quality upgrade with far less than 90%. You just had bad luck. This is why I don’t bother with the RNG and only do it at 100% until I max quality. I got it twice with 30% and once with only 10% lol ---
**Author:** ![Santandrix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/santandrix/32/68758_2.png) [@Santandrix](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Santandrix)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 4:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/delves-strategies-tactics-and-tips/45522/152 "2018-09-11T16:42:17Z")
Where does it tell the percentages? I’m not sure if I have even paid attention to this part or not. ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 4:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/delves-strategies-tactics-and-tips/45522/153 "2018-09-11T16:44:05Z")
Look on the card it telling you lol mythic is 50% so 2 of them is enough for guarantee quality lv up Also when you at 100% you will see the quality number become green before you add gold ---
**Author:** ![Santandrix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/santandrix/32/68758_2.png) [@Santandrix](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Santandrix)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 4:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/delves-strategies-tactics-and-tips/45522/154 "2018-09-11T16:46:20Z")
Thanks a lot. 👍more to look for. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 4:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/delves-strategies-tactics-and-tips/45522/155 "2018-09-11T16:50:08Z")
I once did 95%, but not planning to do it again. If it fails it will suck big time… ---
**Author:** ![Slypenslyde](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/slypenslyde/32/30373_2.png) [@Slypenslyde](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Slypenslyde)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 5:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/delves-strategies-tactics-and-tips/45522/156 "2018-09-11T17:22:11Z")
My upgrade strategy is haphazard and probably not optimal but whatever. If I have 5 of the cruddy 5% treasures, I use them up on the spot. They don’t provide enough of a boost for me to care, and 25% is better than 0%. Otherwise, I don’t try to upgrade unless I have at least one 25% or higher treasure. I use _exactly_ one, then see if I can bump it up to 85% or greater with the cheap treasures. If not, I wait. I can afford to use “too many” cheap treasures, but I’d rather get 2 80% chances out of 2 of the rare ones than 1 100% chance. I can still fail, but it’s more likely I’ll get 2 upgrades. ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 5:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/delves-strategies-tactics-and-tips/45522/157 "2018-09-11T17:46:20Z")
So another delve event this friday? Or it’s just a faction release? ---
**Author:** ![TimeKnight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/timeknight/32/50221_2.png) [@TimeKnight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TimeKnight)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 5:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/delves-strategies-tactics-and-tips/45522/158 "2018-09-11T17:49:27Z")
New Faction release = new 3-day weekend event. The same rule with new class. PS. guys! I spell fraction correctly now! ^^ ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 5:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/delves-strategies-tactics-and-tips/45522/159 "2018-09-11T17:52:07Z")
Lol so dev really want people to burnout with all these events We will soon need to quit our job to keep the pace 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Razzagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/razzagor/32/50037_2.png) [@Razzagor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Razzagor)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 5:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/delves-strategies-tactics-and-tips/45522/160 "2018-09-11T17:59:21Z")
Bein a faction just a small portion of a kingdom… Wouldn’t that be a **fraction** of all troops from said kingdom? ![1533067081778](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/9/9/99f92d1fe402da4ff80c02ff0ec4b9ee5d141374.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Fleg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5e9695/32.png) [@Fleg](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fleg)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 6:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/delves-strategies-tactics-and-tips/45522/161 "2018-09-11T18:45:15Z")
Question: During a normal delve (so NOT an event delve) if I want to keep it at it’s current lv would it be better rewards to play on x1 and beat the boss, or play on x2 and retreat before the boss? ---
**Author:** ![XLS78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/b2d939/32.png) [@XLS78](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/XLS78)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 6:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/delves-strategies-tactics-and-tips/45522/162 "2018-09-11T18:54:45Z")
Your quality bonuses do not apply unless you beat the boss. So if you have quality at 4 or above, beating the boss is better. If not, it’s the same. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/delves-strategies-tactics-and-tips/45522.md?page=7) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/delves-strategies-tactics-and-tips/45522.md?page=9)