# Defeats out of no where **URL:** \ **Category:** Support\ **Created:** [June 3, 2016, 6:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/defeats-out-of-no-where/7913 "2016-06-03T18:52:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Zelarith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zelarith/32/1642_2.png) [@Zelarith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zelarith)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 6:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/defeats-out-of-no-where/7913/1 "2016-06-03T18:52:43Z")
So… During this event, I apparently got two defeats. I got a first one on Tuesday wich, I thought was due to a RQ on Monday as the loss showed up something like 24 hours later, but I just got another one for no apparent reason (didn’t quite ever since, won all my battles, at worst I got a connection problem preventing me from even starting the battle). So… Some insight might help me figure it out : are quitters considered looser only 24 hours after? Because I do remember my network freezing at some point yesterday that might explain it… If it’s the case, then comes a question : why? Quitting in arena is immediatly detected and punished, why not in PvP? ---
**Author:** ![RiverSong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/riversong/32/2089_2.png) [@RiverSong](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/RiverSong)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 6:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/defeats-out-of-no-where/7913/2 "2016-06-03T18:56:39Z")
My understanding is the server only gets pinged every so often ( of sure of the exact timing) and wins/losses show up at that time. I could be wrong, though. ---
**Author:** ![Edu-M](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/edu-m/32/35070_2.png) [@Edu-M](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Edu-M)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 10:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/defeats-out-of-no-where/7913/3 "2016-06-03T22:19:54Z")
I have had the same problem @Zelarith It also happened to me a few times when I had connection problems. This connection problem bug seems to convert every click on trying to re-connect as a loss! Then I am forced to Alt-F4 to start GoW again this happened three times. Each time after I made multiple clicks to re-connect - unsuccessfully. I have not lost a game with my attack team. I appeared to have lost 5 Games, in the beginning, yet nothing was shown in the log. AND NO GAME WAS BEING PLAYED when I had the connection problem. The connection problems happened immediately after I selected an opponent to play and before the fight board/screen appears. I made a note that the first time it happened I was trying to view my opponents troops. Couldn’t view because I couldn’t connect. Had to Alt-F4 - treated as a loss. The next time it happened was in the same situation as above. Not yet started the battle, connection problem. Hit the reconnect about 8 or 9 times, Unsuccessful. Alt-F4’d and board shows me having 9 Losses! Total losses = 19 broken swords. 3 were Alt-F4 the rest are connection click bug. ---
**Author:** ![mkshandley](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mkshandley/32/3549_2.png) [@mkshandley](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mkshandley)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2016, 10:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/defeats-out-of-no-where/7913/4 "2016-06-03T22:27:11Z")
same I only had 2 loss I think all the sudden shows 7 and I had a re- connect thing happen multiple times right before hand and finally just left game and rentered as never wanted to finally connect to battle. think @Bludax hit the nail on the head there.