# Deer Kitten **URL:** \ **Category:** Official News\ **Created:** [November 5, 2017, 11:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deer-kitten/32736 "2017-11-05T23:00:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Venar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/venar/32/36634_2.png) [@Venar](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Venar)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 12:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deer-kitten/32736/82 "2017-11-06T12:52:14Z")
Yes, people have already answered. Basically, you’ll Devour less on offense, probably when you need it the most, so it becomes a less reliable troop. Meanwhile, you’ll get devoured 2-3 times in a row and it will be even more « statistically frustrating ». The problem with Kraken is the trait. That’s why he’s there multiple times in teams. I am happy he is being rebalanced, but personally I still consider that the main 2 « cancers » spreading in this game, and breaking it’s gameplay, are (1) % happening of big effect (devour, destroy, rebirth) and (2) Offensive/Controling effects on gem-match. But judging from the troops that are released, the devs are of a very different opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Isairyu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/isairyu/32/30744_2.png) [@Isairyu](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Isairyu)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 1:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deer-kitten/32736/83 "2017-11-06T13:15:35Z")
Now my krakens eat less. Ai krakens? Like MORE OFTEN. Work with CAUSES not with effects. Fix freaking formula, not numbers. ---
**Author:** ![KrudlerTheHorse](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/krudlerthehorse/32/9505_2.png) [@KrudlerTheHorse](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/KrudlerTheHorse)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 1:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deer-kitten/32736/84 "2017-11-06T13:41:19Z")
> [@Venar](#): > > (2) Offensive/Controling effects I think that is a very astute observation. ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 1:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deer-kitten/32736/85 "2017-11-06T13:49:49Z")
So now after testing kraken for a bit… Turns out he is useless now… I cast him 22 times in 4 battles and he devoured exactly 0 times… This plus his trait only triggering once per board means he isnt a good offensive troop and he isnt a good support troop either Well done… Pfft ---
**Author:** ![DEMONorANGEL](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/demonorangel/32/41260_2.png) [@DEMONorANGEL](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DEMONorANGEL)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 1:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deer-kitten/32736/86 "2017-11-06T13:51:07Z")
I think its a scam against players with disabilities… because my OCD is screaming … Buy it !!! lol ---
**Author:** ![Venar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/venar/32/36634_2.png) [@Venar](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Venar)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 1:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deer-kitten/32736/88 "2017-11-06T13:56:18Z")
In fact , some of these trait are so good that they are they only reason to play a card. If Mab’s spell was changed to « nothing happens » , she would still be used just for that third trait. ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 2:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deer-kitten/32736/89 "2017-11-06T14:04:44Z")
Heh i cant wait to see all the complaints once bards 3rd trait starts creating havoc lol ---
**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 2:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deer-kitten/32736/90 "2017-11-06T14:05:44Z")
Which one? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 2:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deer-kitten/32736/91 "2017-11-06T14:08:28Z")
> [@Vangor](#): > > Heh i cant wait to see all the complaints once bards 3rd trait starts creating havoc lol It was updated to grant +1 to all stats each turn for all yellow troops. RIP silence grief team, may you stay buried. ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 2:09pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deer-kitten/32736/92 "2017-11-06T14:09:07Z")
> [@(!) Spoiler Alert (!) -- \[Any Details Provided are Subject to Change\] (Part 1)](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-any-details-provided-are-subject-to-change-part-1/1280/4486): > > Trait #3: Dissonance / Silence a random enemy on 4 or 5 Gem matches @turintuor unless this has been changed that i am unaware of… ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 2:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deer-kitten/32736/93 "2017-11-06T14:10:54Z")
> [@Fourdottwoone](#): > > turn for all yellow troops. RIP silence grief team, may you stay buried Lol so a pre-release nerf huh? I guess ppl wont be happy until there is a 100% win rate… I think i may be done with the forums for today… Cheers Vangor ---
**Author:** ![Nephilim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nephilim/32/29092_2.png) [@Nephilim](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nephilim)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 2:28pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deer-kitten/32736/94 "2017-11-06T14:28:02Z")
Well it was a stupid trait in all honesty. ---
**Author:** ![Venar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/venar/32/36634_2.png) [@Venar](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Venar)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 2:29pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deer-kitten/32736/95 "2017-11-06T14:29:58Z")
I fail to see how nerfing troops so dumb-strong that any clown can win with their eyes closed will increase win rates. I figured if you increase the need-for-skill ratio, the win rates will reflect the player base more. ---
**Author:** ![KrudlerTheHorse](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/krudlerthehorse/32/9505_2.png) [@KrudlerTheHorse](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/KrudlerTheHorse)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 2:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deer-kitten/32736/96 "2017-11-06T14:52:23Z")
> [@Venar](#): > > troops so dumb-strong that any clown can win with their eyes closed Good point. A team that can be played by a computer opponent which is about as smart as my cat Ollie and consistently win. smh do the math here 😆 We have GW which is oriented as a skill-based game mode, and then a series of wackily imbalanced troops which reduce the game to a slot machine. I applaud raising the minimum required player skill. ---
**Author:** ![VenusBlue](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/venusblue/32/38243_2.png) [@VenusBlue](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/VenusBlue)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 3:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deer-kitten/32736/97 "2017-11-06T15:03:31Z")
Just curious how many times did you restart? Exact same thing happened to me n i restarted 3 times, getting sick of rebooting. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 3:17pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deer-kitten/32736/98 "2017-11-06T15:17:51Z")
Brudda Goodwill, just take a break from these boards. Sometimes its healthy. ---
**Author:** ![Venar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/venar/32/36634_2.png) [@Venar](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Venar)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 3:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deer-kitten/32736/99 "2017-11-06T15:18:31Z")
I may have a spot for Ollie in our guild. Pretty sure he can win if you throw something together like Krys/TDS/Mab/Famine or something. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Ashasekayi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ashasekayi/32/61090_2.png) [@Ashasekayi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashasekayi)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 3:20pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deer-kitten/32736/100 "2017-11-06T15:20:24Z")
> [@Nephilim](#): > > Well it was a stupid trait in all honesty. Amen to this. ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 3:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deer-kitten/32736/101 "2017-11-06T15:22:48Z")
As if not major waves of complaints have already been hitting these boards yet, it would surely have been like a tsunami of complaints if that trait went through. ---
**Author:** ![XLS78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/b2d939/32.png) [@XLS78](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/XLS78)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 4:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deer-kitten/32736/103 "2017-11-06T16:12:08Z")
Maybe not, if the Silence also could apply to forum accounts [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deer-kitten/32736.md?page=4) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deer-kitten/32736.md?page=6)