# Deeds - Discussion and Critique **URL:** \ **Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback\ **Created:** [August 26, 2019, 3:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deeds-discussion-and-critique/57329 "2019-08-26T15:56:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2020, 1:34am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deeds-discussion-and-critique/57329/427 "2020-05-25T01:34:50Z")
> [@Ashasekayi](#): > > **Today’s Date:** April, 23, 2020 hey, do you happen to have the updated numbers for this month by any chance? If I remember correctly, we’ve gotten a few epic deeds, but only 1 Imperial deed this entire month so far. Im at the point where its like if you want us to buy imperial deeds, fine. At least have the offer show up for us more frequently to buy if you (the devs) care that much. ---
**Author:** ![HounganAtLarge](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hounganatlarge/32/28697_2.png) [@HounganAtLarge](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HounganAtLarge)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2020, 7:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deeds-discussion-and-critique/57329/428 "2020-05-25T19:01:41Z")
As it is now May 25th, we have received 33 Imperial deeds in (roughly) 9 months. If this number is incorrect, please state how many Imperial deeds have been available from Daily Adventures. Per the stated timeline of (about) 1 year to upgrade all kingdoms, we now need 69 more Imperial deeds to drop between now & the end of September. Over twice as many as has dropped so far. I have a handful of kingdoms ready to finish by colored deeds, but can only finish 2 of them by Imperial deeds. Whatever algorithm is being used is clearly not working correctly. ---
**Author:** ![xolid99](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/xolid99/32/66856_2.png) [@xolid99](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/xolid99)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2020, 8:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deeds-discussion-and-critique/57329/429 "2020-05-25T20:18:04Z")
> [@HounganAtLarge](#): > > As it is now May 25th, we have received 33 Imperial deeds in (roughly) 9 months. > If this number is incorrect, please state how many Imperial deeds have been available from Daily Adventures. > Per the stated timeline of (about) 1 year to upgrade all kingdoms, we now need 69 more Imperial deeds to drop between now & the end of September. Over twice as many as has dropped so far. > I have a handful of kingdoms ready to finish by colored deeds, but can only finish 2 of them by Imperial deeds. > Whatever algorithm is being used is clearly not working correctly. Indeed. My personal anecdotal opinion is that something is awry since the last patch. I can’t prove it, but I haven’t got 1 x 150 kill task since and I had 18 of them before the patch (since they were introduced). Deeds tasks are too rare, and Imperial Deeds, well, as you point out… Something’s not working right if you ask me. What happened to the special AB’s too? ---
**Author:** ![Darkness](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/darkness/32/2712_2.png) [@Darkness](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Darkness)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2020, 9:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deeds-discussion-and-critique/57329/430 "2020-05-25T21:25:18Z")
The “kill 150 enemies of color X” daily task is still there. I even got 2 on consecutive days 2 weeks ago. ---
**Author:** ![HounganAtLarge](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hounganatlarge/32/28697_2.png) [@HounganAtLarge](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HounganAtLarge)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2020, 10:31pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deeds-discussion-and-critique/57329/431 "2020-05-25T22:31:27Z")
I got my first one in about 2 weeks today. ---
**Author:** ![Ashasekayi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ashasekayi/32/61090_2.png) [@Ashasekayi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashasekayi)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 12:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deeds-discussion-and-critique/57329/432 "2020-05-26T12:49:22Z")
You’re right @TheIdleOne. There’s only been 1 task offered with an imperial deed since April 23rd. **This task was offered on April 28, 2020.** ![46_Apr_28_2020](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/e/7/e7aafe73d767eabde5a9d93d842ccbbd56b99b43.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![HounganAtLarge](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hounganatlarge/32/28697_2.png) [@HounganAtLarge](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HounganAtLarge)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 2:48am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deeds-discussion-and-critique/57329/433 "2020-06-26T02:48:33Z")
One more month has passed…and one Imperial deed has shown up. Either Imperial deeds need to show up at a significantly higher rate, OR another non-random means of obtaining them needs to be implemented, OR the devs can admit that their claim of only needing about a year to upgrade all kingdoms was woefully short. ---
**Author:** ![anavn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d2c977/32.png) [@anavn](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/anavn)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 3:36am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deeds-discussion-and-critique/57329/434 "2020-06-26T03:36:51Z")
Well they might be basing it on the soul forge in very active guilds so you craft them. I have played for close to 6 months now and only have 2 kingdoms 15 and 5 14 bearly missing any dailies so I think it is rediculius and should be addressed! ---
**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 9:51am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deeds-discussion-and-critique/57329/435 "2020-06-26T09:51:06Z")
> [@anavn](#): > > Well they might be basing it on the soul forge in very active guilds so you craft them. Except that those very active guilds also don’t have any way to farm the 1000 Writs required for each Imperial Deed. ---
**Author:** ![Sytro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Sytro](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sytro)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 10:09am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deeds-discussion-and-critique/57329/436 "2020-06-26T10:09:45Z")
green epic tasks, give some writs slowly, but getting there… ---
**Author:** ![xolid99](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/xolid99/32/66856_2.png) [@xolid99](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/xolid99)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 11:42am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deeds-discussion-and-critique/57329/437 "2020-06-26T11:42:11Z")
I had an Imperial Deed offer last week. 375 gems, on offer, plus 80K gold IIRC. Immediately I thought yep, will do that… So, I looked. Deeds came out in August 19. I’m not sure of the exact date, I believe 28th August 2019. So, it’s 10 months ago give or take a day or two. I’ve not bought an Imperial Deed, neither have I missed one available on the AB. I’ve not crafted an Imperial Deed with writs (I think!). So… what do I have; (note as I’m doing faction 500 without potions, I have a road map predicated on hoard bonus) _Level 15_ Urskaya Silverglade Zaejin Sin of Maraj Blighted Lands Mist of Scales Zhulkari 7 Kingdoms - 21 Imperial Deeds used. _Level 14_ Pan’s Vale Leonis Empire Drifting Sands Suncrest Bright Forest Khetar Stormheim 7 Kingdoms, 7 Imperials used _Total 28 Imperial Deeds used_ In my inventory I have 8 Imperial Deeds. I have obtained 36 Imperial Deeds. We need 102 Imperial Deeds to make all Kingdoms Level 15. So as it stands, I’m slightly over 1/3rd of the way there in 10 months. Effectively 3.6 Imperial Deeds per month obtained and I need 66. I’m still over 18 months away from the requisite value, by playing every day. I have enough Writs to craft 2 more, so I can shorten that a little, and over time with guild tasks, may bring that down by say a month. I could actually have crafted 3, but crafted a magic deed recently when 1 short for a faction. So, why would I buy 1 Imperial Deed? I’m not going to am I, as the goal is so far away, and the offer is unrealistic. ---
**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 2:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deeds-discussion-and-critique/57329/438 "2020-06-26T14:18:31Z")
> [@Sytro](#): > > green epic tasks, give some writs True, not really something I’d consider “farming” though. Epic tasks also get you one of each colored deeds, turning those writs into imperial deeds for balance just prevents you from ending up even deeper in the hole. ---
**Author:** ![Lorien1973](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lorien1973/32/75546_2.png) [@Lorien1973](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lorien1973)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 2:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deeds-discussion-and-critique/57329/439 "2020-06-26T14:25:02Z")
A non-farmable required resource was bullcrap from day 1. At the very least, writs should be farmable somehow. ---
**Author:** ![Evelyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/evelyn/32/59789_2.png) [@Evelyn](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Evelyn)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 3:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deeds-discussion-and-critique/57329/440 "2020-06-27T15:40:15Z")
So are imperials deeds like, 1 per month now? Did the adventure board rates change or are we just incredibly unlucky? ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 7:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deeds-discussion-and-critique/57329/441 "2020-06-27T19:40:48Z")
> [@Evelyn](#): > > Did the adventure board rates change April, May, and June have all been terrible. If they want to sell us Imperial Deeds, they’re doing a poor job of it. ---
**Author:** ![Fleg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5e9695/32.png) [@Fleg](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fleg)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 9:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deeds-discussion-and-critique/57329/442 "2020-06-27T21:05:42Z")
I think the rate of regular colored deeds seems about right for the devs saying “about a year” to finish all kingdoms. But they forget about imperials. Either intentionally or not. Something needs to be done. I’m just glad I didn’t craft any colored deeds. That seems like a huge waste now it’s imperials that are the bottleneck. ---
**Author:** ![Lyrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyrian/32/61071_2.png) [@Lyrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyrian)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 12:52am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deeds-discussion-and-critique/57329/443 "2020-06-28T00:52:54Z")
> [@Lorien1973](#): > > At the very least, writs should be farmable somehow. Won’t happen. Those days have long past. > [@TheIdleOne](#): > > If they want to sell us Imperial Deeds, they’re doing a poor job of it. I doubt the devs look at the situation in the same way. To, them, the selling of Imperial Deeds is going likely exactly the way they want it. They get to set the terms of any deal or offers in the game, and they likely care little about whether the player thinks those terms are fair. If the player doesn’t like those terms, then more power to them. They’ll just have to accept earning Imperial Deeds at the minimum rates. Obtaining Imperial Deeds at any faster rate means agreeing to whatever terms or conditions the devs set. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/a/e/aed9c67b3dfe6b12603815aff3cb3def38cf910b.jpeg) The situation is literally, that. And no, its not going to get better in 5.0 from the players’ perspectives, or probably ever IMO. ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 1:33am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deeds-discussion-and-critique/57329/444 "2020-06-28T01:33:21Z")
> [@Lyrian](#): > > Obtaining Imperial Deeds at any faster rate means agreeing to whatever terms or conditions the devs set. Right and considering there is a demand for Imperial Deeds and no consistent supply of Imperial Deeds for purchase means they’re leaving money on the table. If I want to buy 9 per month and the game only offers me 2, I either get tired of waiting and stop buying it, or I continue to want it and have no opportunity to give them extra money. Any deal that they aren’t capitalizing on is their loss. Besides, they have nothing to lose when players get capped, but they have money to lose if we cap out without having the opportunity to spend. ---
**Author:** ![Lyrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyrian/32/61071_2.png) [@Lyrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyrian)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 2:54am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deeds-discussion-and-critique/57329/445 "2020-06-28T02:54:27Z")
> [@TheIdleOne](#): > > Any deal that they aren’t capitalizing on is their loss. I’m quite sure that there will be new cash deals offered to players in 5.0. They may or may not offer Imperial Deeds in them, but I doubt the devs are blind towards players wanting to give them money via various transactions of value. ---
**Author:** ![covertmuffin123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5daacb/32.png) [@covertmuffin123](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/covertmuffin123)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 7:10am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deeds-discussion-and-critique/57329/446 "2020-06-28T07:10:33Z")
I’m starting to think the droprate was broken in one of the last few patches. I’m not one to call shenanigans on RNG, but this seriously doesn’t feel intended. I’m mostly just here to gripe, once again, about how impressively bad deeds are. Every day, I log into the game and am immediately disappointed by the lack of imperial deeds in tasks and daily deals. It can’t be good game design to have your players start every play session annoyed with you. Please never add anything else like this to the game, and please do something else with kingdom levels 16-20. Deeds aren’t a game mechanic, they’re a waiting room. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deeds-discussion-and-critique/57329.md?page=21) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deeds-discussion-and-critique/57329.md?page=23)