# Deeds - Discussion and Critique

**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deeds-discussion-and-critique/57329
**Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback
**Created:** [August 26, 2019, 3:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deeds-discussion-and-critique/57329 "2019-08-26T15:56:41Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)
#### Post date: [March 30, 2020, 12:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deeds-discussion-and-critique/57329/407 "2020-03-30T12:16:32Z")

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> [@awryan](#):
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> I thought they said somewhere that the drop rate of deeds in AB wouldn’t be changed due to Epic Tasks?

Was that the same place where they said that scoring for the new events would be explained in detail? Remember, they already claimed that traitstone task rates didn’t get changed, despite proof to the contrary.

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### Author: ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)
#### Post date: [April 15, 2020, 7:34am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deeds-discussion-and-critique/57329/408 "2020-04-15T07:34:58Z")

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> [@TheIdleOne](#):
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> Epic Tasks don’t matter if we’re stuck waiting for Imperial Deeds.

We’ve gotten only 1 Imperial Deed in what feels like eternity. How long has it been?

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### Author: ![Ashasekayi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ashasekayi/32/61090_2.png) [@Ashasekayi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashasekayi)
#### Post date: [April 15, 2020, 12:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deeds-discussion-and-critique/57329/409 "2020-04-15T12:00:34Z")

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> [@TheIdleOne](#):
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> We’ve gotten only 1 Imperial Deed in what feels like eternity. How long has it been?

March 6th…

 ![March_6_2020](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/b/a/ba1fbe6e8a043df780476a9b777f1f06fbaaa835.jpeg)

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### Author: ![Fleg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5e9695/32.png) [@Fleg](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fleg)
#### Post date: [April 15, 2020, 12:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deeds-discussion-and-critique/57329/410 "2020-04-15T12:56:31Z")

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But we’ve had a few writ tasks…

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### Author: ![Megaqwerty](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/megaqwerty/32/58238_2.png) [@Megaqwerty](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Megaqwerty)
#### Post date: [April 15, 2020, 9:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deeds-discussion-and-critique/57329/411 "2020-04-15T21:10:48Z")

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The writ tasks are hiliarious. It would take literally months of writ tasks to acquire enough writs from such tasks to craft a single deed.

I’ll take it over minor traitstones, but still.

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### Author: ![Sossitch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sossitch/32/60933_2.png) [@Sossitch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sossitch)
#### Post date: [April 15, 2020, 9:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deeds-discussion-and-critique/57329/412 "2020-04-15T21:23:18Z")

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Buying deeds from flash offers is a newbie trap, since you won’t have enough imperial deeds to use them all.

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### Author: ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)
#### Post date: [April 15, 2020, 9:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deeds-discussion-and-critique/57329/413 "2020-04-15T21:56:51Z")

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> [@Sossitch](#):
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> Buying ~~deeds~~ from flash offers is a ~~newbie~~ trap

I mean, you aren’t _wrong_ per se …

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### Author: ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)
#### Post date: [April 16, 2020, 3:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deeds-discussion-and-critique/57329/414 "2020-04-16T03:13:51Z")

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![244498_MR DEEDS_1400x2100 UV_Eng](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/5/e/5ecb739a2d4dc2d378c37cae48e80916aa2d8251.jpeg)  
How it was advertised to us…  
 ![203252__35589.1551351900.500.500](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/d/a/da136263413c6766ccac4cb1ccdec959f91dac0a.jpeg)  
What it actually is…  
 ![51pE0WY0XAL.SY445](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/4/1/41a9022e97587579331f2af5d4db5d7adfb0c006.jpeg)  
How those who wasted money buying deeds feel…  
 ![td7Rs4NxSLLzhwYVZ9fFhrON4jj](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/7/1/71369c31a5e66ae9b74b1c07a7d108943bb26df4.jpeg)  
I guess the joke is on us 🤷‍♂️  
… Really…  
 ![funny_people_poster_b](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/b/3/b34c2169712c32eb9d2d0602fc46a4e52f939823.jpeg)

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### Author: ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)
#### Post date: [April 23, 2020, 5:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deeds-discussion-and-critique/57329/415 "2020-04-23T17:11:15Z")

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@Ashasekayi are you still keeping track of when exactly we get deeds in AB?  
Clearly the drop rare was nerfed by 4.8 and I have a theory as to why.  
But certain Dev apologists will certainly want more data than my own observations over the past 3-4 months.

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### Author: ![covertmuffin123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5daacb/32.png) [@covertmuffin123](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/covertmuffin123)
#### Post date: [April 23, 2020, 6:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deeds-discussion-and-critique/57329/416 "2020-04-23T18:23:03Z")

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I’m one of the biggest _math_ apologists here (most complaints are just due to randomness), but it’s starting to reach the point where I’d like to see some statistics on if something’s broken. Unfortunately, since drop rates aren’t public and sample sizes are small, we have no way to run those statistics.

I just hope that some devs, playing on their personal accounts, are getting equally frustrated at the lack of deeds, and will take it upon themselves to check the code.\*

I’ve said it before - deeds are the absolute worst thing in the game. Their existence makes the entire playerbase start each day (of gameplay) disappointed. You don’t want to annoy your playerbase en masse daily. There’s also no redeeming quality to deeds; there’s no gameplay, you just get them and your stats go up sometimes.

\*(yeah, I know)

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### Author: ![Ashasekayi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ashasekayi/32/61090_2.png) [@Ashasekayi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashasekayi)
#### Post date: [April 23, 2020, 7:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deeds-discussion-and-critique/57329/417 "2020-04-23T19:37:15Z")

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> [@awryan](#):
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> are you still keeping track of when exactly we get deeds in AB?

Yea, I am. The last deed AB was on April 11th.

 ![Apr_11_2020](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/d/9/d9ebff94263015ba8b74a3ac955228473caacdb2.jpeg)

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### Author: ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)
#### Post date: [April 23, 2020, 7:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deeds-discussion-and-critique/57329/418 "2020-04-23T19:47:43Z")

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If you’re tracking it in a chart form do you mind posting the dates between 4.7 and now. Either here or in a DM?

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### Author: ![Ashasekayi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ashasekayi/32/61090_2.png) [@Ashasekayi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashasekayi)
#### Post date: [April 23, 2020, 7:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deeds-discussion-and-critique/57329/419 "2020-04-23T19:49:09Z")

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> [@awryan](#):
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> If you’re tracking it in a chart form do you mind posting the dates between 4.7 and now. Either here or in a DM?

Let me look up the actual date for 4.7 then I’ll isolate that time period.

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### Author: ![Ashasekayi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ashasekayi/32/61090_2.png) [@Ashasekayi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashasekayi)
#### Post date: [April 23, 2020, 8:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deeds-discussion-and-critique/57329/420 "2020-04-23T20:51:44Z")

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> [@awryan](#):
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> do you mind posting the dates between 4.7

**Today’s Date:** April, 23, 2020

# December

| Month | Deed Color | Deed Amt | Imperial |
| --- | --- | --- | --- |
| Dec. 8, 2019 | purple | 4 | |
| Dec. 11, 2019 | purple | 4 | |
| Dec. 12, 2019 | purple | 6 | 1 |
| Dec. 16, 2019 | brown | 4 | |
| Dec. 24, 2019 | blue | 6 | 1 |
| Dec. 24, 2019 | red | 6 | 1 |
| Dec. 27, 2019 | brown | 4 | |

# January

| Month | Deed Color | Deed Amt | Imperial |
| --- | --- | --- | --- |
| Jan. 1, 2020 | blue | 4 | |
| Jan. 4, 2020 | red | 4 | |
| Jan. 12, 2020 | purple | 4 | |
| Jan. 14, 2020 | brown | 6 | 1 |
| Jan. 16, 2020 | red | 4 | |
| Jan. 24, 2020 | blue | 4 | |
| Jan. 26, 2020 | blue | 6 | 1 |
| Jan. 29, 2020 | yellow | 4 | |

# February

| Month | Deed Color | Deed Amt | Imperial |
| --- | --- | --- | --- |
| Feb. 2, 2020 | red | 6 | 1 |
| Feb. 3, 2020 | yellow | 6 | 1 |
| Feb. 5, 2020 | red | 4 | |
| Feb. 6, 2020 | green | 4 | |
| Feb. 15, 2020 | brown | 6 | 1 |
| Feb. 24, 2020 | yellow | 9 | 2 |
| Feb. 28, 2020 | brown | 6 | 1 |

# March

| Month | Deed Color | Deed Amt | Imperial |
| --- | --- | --- | --- |
| Mar. 1, 2020 | yellow | 4 | |
| Mar. 2, 2020 | brown | 6 | 1 |
| Mar. 2, 2020 | red | 4 | |
| Mar. 4, 2020 | green | 9 | 2 |
| Mar. 6, 2020 | green | 6 | 1 |
| Mar. 7, 2020 | brown | 4 | |
| Mar. 10, 2020 | purple | 4 | |
| Mar. 16, 2020 | brown | 4 | |

# April

| Month | Deed Color | Deed Amt | Imperial |
| --- | --- | --- | --- |
| Apr. 1, 2020 | red | 4 | |
| Apr. 5, 2020 | green | 4 | |
| Apr. 11, 2020 | purple | 4 | |

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### Author: ![mitamata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mitamata/32/10313_2.png) [@mitamata](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mitamata)
#### Post date: [April 23, 2020, 9:20pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deeds-discussion-and-critique/57329/421 "2020-04-23T21:20:13Z")

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4.8 was March 10th

The tasks are rolled on the servers, I’m pretty sure they can change the weights of individual tasks without an update, so the change might not coincide with a patch. Though it sure looks like deeds got rarer after with 4.8

I’m guessing somebody decided it would be best to decrease deed tasks in preparations for the “daily deals” update. That way when we say “hey, you nerfed deed tasks to get us to spend gems on deeds!” they can say “nope! didn’t change AB tasks at all with 4.9” 🙃

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### Author: ![Sossitch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sossitch/32/60933_2.png) [@Sossitch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sossitch)
#### Post date: [April 24, 2020, 5:28am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deeds-discussion-and-critique/57329/422 "2020-04-24T05:28:41Z")

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So… several years to upgrade all 34 kingdoms to level 15, assuming you play every single day. I bought some deeds from flash offers, now I have enough deeds to upgrade 2 kingdoms, but no imperial deeds to do it with.

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### Author: ![Fleg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5e9695/32.png) [@Fleg](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fleg)
#### Post date: [April 24, 2020, 5:51am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deeds-discussion-and-critique/57329/423 "2020-04-24T05:51:48Z")

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Also, how long has it been since a mythic task? Have we even had one this year? Or even a non-deed legendary task for that matter…

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### Author: ![Dust\_Angel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dust_angel/32/35256_2.png) [@Dust\_Angel](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Dust_Angel)
#### Post date: [April 24, 2020, 3:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deeds-discussion-and-critique/57329/424 "2020-04-24T15:15:32Z")

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March 23 - legendary shards  
February 27 - legendary gems  
February 15 - mythic keys

Every other mythic/legendary thing this year has been deed-related.

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### Author: ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2020, 7:15am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deeds-discussion-and-critique/57329/425 "2020-04-26T07:15:06Z")

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so since December, we’ve gotten either 7 or 8 deed tasks per month, including February.

April 26th and we just got our 4th. All epics.

Ya got a lot of surprising to do in the next 4 days…

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### Author: ![Fleg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5e9695/32.png) [@Fleg](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fleg)
#### Post date: [April 29, 2020, 10:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/deeds-discussion-and-critique/57329/426 "2020-04-29T22:59:23Z")

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Does anybody know the full count of regular and imperial deeds we have received thus far? We need in total 1020 regular deeds and 102 imperial. That is a 10:1 ratio. I’m just wondering what the current received ratio is so I can make an informed decision on how many if any imperial deeds to buy from the daily offer.

Edit: I just did some adding up myself based on the deeds I have and the deeds I’ve spent. FYI I have never spent any real money on deeds nor crafted any and my guild completes all epic tasks.

Red 103  
Green 85  
Brown 84  
Yellow 75  
Blue 68  
Purple 64  
Total 479

We have only received 33 imperial deeds so that means we are WAY further behind than I thought. We should have about 48 by now.

I feel bad for anyone who turned all writs into purple deeds. Short term gain but long term pain.

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