# Death Mark, new hotness, or basic? **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\ **Created:** [July 15, 2016, 4:17pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/death-mark-new-hotness-or-basic/9634 "2016-07-15T16:17:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 1:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/death-mark-new-hotness-or-basic/9634/81 "2016-07-28T13:53:51Z")
> [@Zelfore](#): > > Death is also a costly Mythic troop, so frequency of play will be rather minimal. I don’t think you can say this. I see Plague almost as much as Maw anymore in PvP. ---
**Author:** ![Zelfore](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zelfore/32/22295_2.png) [@Zelfore](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zelfore)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2016, 10:07pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/death-mark-new-hotness-or-basic/9634/82 "2016-07-28T22:07:19Z")
> [@htismaqe](#): > > I see Plague almost as much as Maw anymore in PvP. I also face off against a Plague or 2 every 3-5 matches, the thing is he’s still a costly Mythic, so he’ll rarely if ever get to shoot his spell off. (At least against me.) Even when he does luck out and fire, I can cover the ground lost without much obstruction. If Death is reworked before his release, fine by me, I haven’t actually used any of the Mythic’s as of yet - too costly soul/trait-wise for no overall gain (kingdoms/etc). But either way, I won’t be fearing a match against the dreaded horsemen anymore than I fear a lucky Maw/Mercy match. ---
**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 12:41am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/death-mark-new-hotness-or-basic/9634/83 "2016-07-29T00:41:01Z")
Yesterday, one of my troop was killed at the first turn after Death Mark. 10% only, yes but when it happens it’s painful… Death’s rework concerns the second part of the spell only: [SPOILER ALERT ---- Is This Mr. Death ? Wu@Haaaaaaaa - #31 by Nimhain](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spoiler-alert-is-this-mr-death-wu-haaaaaaaa/9646/31) So 'Death Mark to all" will remain unchanged… ---
**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 3:06am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/death-mark-new-hotness-or-basic/9634/84 "2016-07-29T03:06:51Z")
Ah I see. You’re talking about the frequency of him using his spell not how frequently you’re seeing him in matches. ---
**Author:** ![Esoxnepa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/esoxnepa/32/1837_2.png) [@Esoxnepa](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Esoxnepa)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 12:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/death-mark-new-hotness-or-basic/9634/85 "2016-07-29T12:58:55Z")
> [@Zelfore](#): > > I haven’t actually used any of the Mythic’s as of yet - too costly soul/trait-wise for no overall gain (kingdoms/etc). Famine is really quite good. Probably, because he can be powered up by Mercy. Jinx is probably the only required trait on him. He is, however, a bit of a slower control troop style of play. With how fast matches can still be won, I can understand him not making the cut. ---
**Author:** ![Studs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/studs/32/3498_2.png) [@Studs](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Studs)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 5:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/death-mark-new-hotness-or-basic/9634/86 "2016-07-29T17:15:05Z")
Yeah, it feels like they went overly conservative on the mana costs which has made the Mythics underwhelming. I think just lowering the mana costs by a few would really ratchet up their power to where it should be so they feel Mythic. ---
**Author:** ![SirCookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sircookie/32/13060_2.png) [@SirCookie](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/SirCookie)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 6:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/death-mark-new-hotness-or-basic/9634/87 "2016-07-29T18:39:34Z")
After the death mark buff, in my first battle against a hero with Creeping Death, the enemy hero got a chance to cast, and then both of my troops that got marked died immediately. Ouch! Turns out I was very unlucky. Less than a 1% chance of that happening. But I ended up winning anyway. Made for an exciting match at least. ---
**Author:** ![Treemo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/treemo/32/8848_2.png) [@Treemo](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Treemo)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 6:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/death-mark-new-hotness-or-basic/9634/88 "2016-07-29T18:57:52Z")
It’s pretty easy to counter creeping death as it’s only a single color and require plenty of mana and we have 2 troops ( Mercy and Astral Spirit ) that can entirely remove it’s color from the start. ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 6:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/death-mark-new-hotness-or-basic/9634/89 "2016-07-29T18:59:10Z")
> [@Treemo](#): > > It’s pretty easy to counter creeping death as it’s only a single color and require plenty of mana and we have 2 troops ( Mercy and Astral Spirit ) that can entirely remove it’s color from the start. No love for Tyri? ---
**Author:** ![Treemo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/treemo/32/8848_2.png) [@Treemo](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Treemo)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 7:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/death-mark-new-hotness-or-basic/9634/90 "2016-07-29T19:00:38Z")
> [@TaliaParks](#): > > No love for Tyri? Nope, got too many maps already 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 7:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/death-mark-new-hotness-or-basic/9634/91 "2016-07-29T19:15:21Z")
> [@Treemo](#): > > Nope, got too many maps already 🙂 Arguably the best Mana denier in the game, Maps are just a bonus IMHO ---
**Author:** ![SirCookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sircookie/32/13060_2.png) [@SirCookie](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/SirCookie)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2016, 7:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/death-mark-new-hotness-or-basic/9634/92 "2016-07-29T19:25:46Z")
> [@Treemo](#): > > It’s pretty easy to counter creeping death Agreed. I was trying out my own death mark team that didn’t turn out to be that great at denying the AI mana or turns. ---
**Author:** ![therealwetwilly](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/therealwetwilly/32/4178_2.png) [@therealwetwilly](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/therealwetwilly)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2016, 8:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/death-mark-new-hotness-or-basic/9634/93 "2016-07-30T08:56:32Z")
> [@TaliaParks](#): > > Arguably the best Mana denier in the game, Maps are just a bonus IMHO And one of the highest base attack stats for an epic as well. ---
**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 3:09pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/death-mark-new-hotness-or-basic/9634/94 "2016-08-02T15:09:06Z")
I ran a Creeping Death team quite a while ago, before the boost. Highly effective, even if Death Mark wasn’t. I can’t imagine how OP it would be now. ---
**Author:** ![Ashasekayi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ashasekayi/32/61090_2.png) [@Ashasekayi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashasekayi)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 3:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/death-mark-new-hotness-or-basic/9634/95 "2016-08-02T15:15:46Z")
I’ve been playing more with a Creeping Death Sorcerer team lately. Death mark’s effectiveness is random, but I’ve had two death marked troops die at the same time on the first turn. This has happened several times. So yes, it can be OP at times. 😸 [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/death-mark-new-hotness-or-basic/9634.md?page=4)